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Effective means to secure something to a cinder block wall

I have an x-ray processor for which I have built a small stand. My plan is to secure the processor to the stand, and secure the stand to a cinder block wall. The question is, how best to do so? I was thinking I would drill a few holes and using epoxy, mount some threaded stock to the wall, like wheel studs sort of, and bolt the rig to the wall.

Any thoughts or suggestions on this project?

There will be a bit of plumbing to do, also need to make the room light tight, but that should be relatively straightforward.

TIA

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Assuming the block is hollow and not filled, I would use Hilti toggler anchors in the appropriate size for the weight of the object. No-go on epoxy/threaded rod...

http://www.us.hilti.com/holus/page/module/product/prca_rangedetail.jsf?lang=en&nodeId=-77338


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I have an x-ray processor for which I have built a small stand. My plan is to secure the processor to the stand, and secure the stand to a cinder block wall. The question is, how best to do so? I was thinking I would drill a few holes and using epoxy, mount some threaded stock to the wall, like wheel studs sort of, and bolt the rig to the wall.

Any thoughts or suggestions on this project?

There will be a bit of plumbing to do, also need to make the room light tight, but that should be relatively straightforward.

TIA
No, but I just wanted to point out that line about Europe at the bottom of your posts is wrong and quite inane, and makes you look a bit silly.
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In addition to your mechanical approach, you might consider PL's concrete adhesive. I've used it and some other PL products with excellent results...from concrete repair to re-attaching Vibram soles to boots (7 years ago).
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I have good luck with Tapcons.
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Tapcons may not be good for block, especially when significant weight is involved. Sometimes the block is too "crumbly". If the hole isn't drilled properly, the Tapcon could lose its' bite. They are brittle, too. Tapcons work good in solid concrete.
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Tapcons may not be good for block, especially when significant weight is involved. Sometimes the block is too "crumbly". If the hole isn't drilled properly, the Tapcon could lose its' bite. They are brittle, too. Tapcons work good in solid concrete.
Danny I put them in the joint, but your are right about them in block.
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Danny I put them in the joint, but your are right about them in block.
The joint is mortar. I think they'd be better off in the block.

That being said, weight is the issue. I use Tapcons in block all the time to attach plywood or studs. Never when securing something heavy, though.
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If the weight of the machine is carrried by the stand on the floor and you're just trying to stabilize the stand to the wall, then some tapcons held in with some two part Simpson SET epoxy from would work. If you can get the stand flush to the wall, you can epoxy it to the wall as well.

If you can position the stand where you can access the vertical mortar joints, you can use 1/4" or 3/8" diameter Redheads with some Simpson SET epoxy as well. This would be the strongest area to work with as the head joints should be filled with mortar.

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If the weight of the machine is carrried by the stand on the floor and you're just trying to stabilize the stand to the wall, then some tapcons held in with some two part Simpson SET epoxy from would work. If you can get the stand flush to the wall, you can epoxy it to the wall as well.

If you can position the stand where you can access the vertical mortar joints, you can use 1/4" or 3/8" diameter Redheads with some Simpson SET epoxy as well. This would be the strongest area to work with as the head joints should be filled with mortar.

SET High Strength Epoxy-Tie® Anchoring Adhesive ~ Simpson Strong-Tie Anchor Systems®
Listen to him. The guy knows what he's talking about. Epoxy redheads into the mortar joints.
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Drilling into concrete has never been precise from my experience. The concrete bit will hit a larger partical and readjust. When locating the studs, mabye attach them to the stand first, then epoxy everything in place.
Hope the stand is not damaged.

Danny's Hilti toggler anchors are the strongest provided they land in a hollow.
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I should have noted the block wall should be free of all paint, etc. before trying to attach anything. Otherwise there will be a lack of adhesion, and the part will give way. Clean the hole/surface with a brush and air of all loose drilling debris.
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I always go in the center of the cell on the block and use a Hilti or toggle. Never an issue...
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How about drilling through all the way to the other side and run a long threaded rod with a big o' washer or steel plate on both side and crank down on the nut? Cut the rod off with a small grinder after. a bit more more work but stronger then anchors.

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