Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
84porsche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Downey, CA
Posts: 3,861
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to 84porsche
Help Me Understand Motion Sickness

So I have read tons of articles about motion sickness and just would love for this to be able to go away. Try this on for size -

I get motion sickness when someone else drives mountain roads with me as a passenger, roller coaster, boats and race cars or at least my one experience in Jack's car. As a driver though, I do not get sick at all.

Why can some people be immune to the effects of motion and others not? What's the deal?

That being said I made through Space Mountain for the first time in nearly 12 years but know that I won't be going back anytime soon. Thoughts?

__________________
Modes of Transportation:
1984 Porsche 911 Targa
2003 VW Jetta GLI
Old 10-17-2010, 09:27 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
Is it a control issue? I know I get nervous when I am not in control of the situation. I can go all out at autocross... I can't stand to ride with others....
Old 10-17-2010, 09:34 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
84porsche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Downey, CA
Posts: 3,861
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to 84porsche
Honestly I am not sure. I am beginning to think it might be. I was just reading that NASA has something that use on astronauts but I don' t think it's available for consumers to potentially use.
__________________
Modes of Transportation:
1984 Porsche 911 Targa
2003 VW Jetta GLI
Old 10-17-2010, 09:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
I know dramamine helps me... but that is only b/c it knocks me out.


You might talk to your MD about getting a scrip for some phenergan. You could take some before an activity that causes you upset.
Old 10-17-2010, 09:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
"O"man(are we in trouble)
 
widgeon13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: On the edge
Posts: 16,452
Quote:
Originally Posted by 84porsche View Post
So I have read tons of articles about motion sickness and just would love for this to be able to go away. Try this on for size -

I get motion sickness when someone else drives mountain roads with me as a passenger, roller coaster, boats and race cars or at least my one experience in Jack's car. As a driver though, I do not get sick at all.

Why can some people be immune to the effects of motion and others not? What's the deal?

That being said I made through Space Mountain for the first time in nearly 12 years but know that I won't be going back anytime soon. Thoughts?
My wife is the same way, she can't ride for a long time w/o feeling ill. It's worse when she is in the back seat and can't see down the road. When she drives, no problem. Or perhaps it's just me.
Old 10-18-2010, 02:59 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by widgeon13 View Post
My wife is the same way, she can't ride for a long time w/o feeling ill. It's worse when she is in the back seat and can't see down the road. When she drives, no problem. Or perhaps it's just me.
My ex g/f was that way.... At least when I was driving... I am about 99% sure it was a control issue with her... Talk about nuts.....
Old 10-18-2010, 04:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
cbush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 521
No answer on why some, but I think you can condition your body to it to not get sick. Good thing is that they have some over the counter meds that work great. I get motion sickness on the track--even driving! Over a recent track weekend I felt like crap on the first day, on the second day, I took one of those chewable pills, and the motion didn't bother me at all.

Of course if I would just learn to drive smoother, I probably wouldn't have a problem at all
__________________
Chuck
-------
70 & 75 911S
96 993 C4S
'10 F-150
Old 10-18-2010, 04:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
Chuck if you would drive faster you wouldn't have time to think about it!
Old 10-18-2010, 04:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Get off my lawn!
 
GH85Carrera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 85,086
Garage
Some people are just very sensitive to motion sickness. My wife’s entire family is very sensitive. Right after we got married we went on a ski trip. I knew if I was not driving I would be in the back seat. I brought a book and they were all horrified at the thought of reading a book in the back seat. They said I could not do that and I thought they had some family rule about reading. They just knew I would get sick while reading a book in the back seat while going through the mountain passes. I did not have a problem at all.

At Disney World they have a fantastic ride called Mission to Mars. I would love to see how it works. All I know is it is amazing to feel the gee forces. It was a lot of fun. My wife would not even go into the building. She had heard how it makes some people get sick that love all the other rides.

Mythbusters did a good episode about motion sickness. Ginger seems to be a very good way to beat it. All of the wrist bands and other non medicinal things were useless.
__________________
Glen
49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America
1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan
1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine
My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood!
Old 10-18-2010, 04:42 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
<insert witty title here>
 
Christien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ont.
Posts: 7,000
Garage
From what I understand, it's more about what your eyes see coming at you not being in sync with what your brain feels. This explains why as a driver you don't get sick, whereas being a passenger you do, all other things being equal. When you're driving (particularly at the track or autocross) your eyes are watching everything happening, and your brain (and therefore hands and feet) are responding to that and controlling the motions as reaction. As a passenger, it's the opposite - your brain is reacting to what your eyes see, which isn't necessarily in sync with what the driver's doing.

I've occasionally got motion sickness at the track - very mild, but always concerns me because I'm very prone to nausea. I've found it helps significantly to look even further down the road.

Along the same lines, have you ever wondered how figure skaters can spin countless times and not get dizzy? It's the same thing - brain feeling something different than eyes see. From what I'm told, they keep their visual focus on one particular spot.
__________________
Current: 1987 911 cabrio
Past: 1972 911t 3.0, 1986 911, 1983 944, 1999 Boxster
Old 10-18-2010, 05:26 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 2,357
Ginger, as in from the spice rack or from a sushi place? I haven't seen that episode.
__________________
'87 924S (Sold)
Old 10-18-2010, 05:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Get off my lawn!
 
GH85Carrera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 85,086
Garage
Ginger from the spice rack. My father in law would just mix some up in water and drink it. I don't think it was that tasty but it was better that sickness.
__________________
Glen
49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America
1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan
1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine
My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood!
Old 10-18-2010, 05:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 2,357
Cool, thanks for the info! My wife gets motion sickness and isn't a big fan of dramamine.
__________________
'87 924S (Sold)
Old 10-18-2010, 06:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: DF
Posts: 70
I get sick is cars often, worse if I'm riding in the back seat but never when driving. As a kid it was kind of bad, now it's gotten somewhat better. Never got to the point of having to empty my stomach but it would get me 1/2-1 hr to get back to normal.

In my case it's definitely not a control issue. I'm also sensitive to very sweet perfumes and get sick in the same fasion.
Old 10-18-2010, 06:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Non Compos Mentis
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Off the grid- Almost
Posts: 10,598
I've heard Bob Hoover (Amazing airshow pilot, in case you didn't know) will get airsick as a passenger.

I never get motion sick, but when I was on a gillnetter in Alaska, I was told to keep a full stomach, as it's the stomach acids sloshing around that causes it. Munching saltine crackers is said to be one of the best preventions, as it acts as an internal baffle.

A journalist that was about to get a ride in one of the Blue Angles asked about what to eat before hand. The answer:

"Bananas. Tastes the same coming up as going down."
Old 10-18-2010, 06:12 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Superman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Lacey, WA. USA
Posts: 25,310
Driving apparently wards it off. Otherwise, front passenger seat is a good location, watching the road. Back seat is more likely to cause motion sickness. And not watching the road. My sisters used to get car sick often. I've never been motion sick in my life. At the carnival, I love The Zipper.
__________________
Man of Carbon Fiber (stronger than steel)

Mocha 1978 911SC. "Coco"
Old 10-18-2010, 06:13 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Seahawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 31,511
This is an interesting topic, one, as a former Navy pilot who cruised on very small frigates in very large seas, I researched. I have only been sick once.

There really are shades of gray in the root cause of motion sickness. The Navy medical establishment acknowledges definitive physical attributes that can contribute to motion sickness, but they also acknowledge definite mental contributory factors as well: stress, apprehension, prior experiences as a child, anticipation of getting sick, etc.

In flight school there are always hard core pukers, guys and gals that get motion sickness on pre-flight The Navy will, if the student is willing and has been doing well, try and get the individual on a path back to flight.

They start with the patch, which often works. A good friend of mine who is a flight surgeon told me that if the patch works many times the third or fourth "patch" prescription is basically a placebo...with identical results.

Failing the patch, they move to the physical side, inner ear, blockage, etc. If there are no obvious, non-repairable issues, the fun begins.

Another good friend of mine (spent some time shooting with him and his son this weekend) I met in flight school was a hurler, a dynamic bag filler. The patch failed, he had no physical causes so, as he described it, the torture began.

Spin chairs, lots of time in visual flight sims, g-force trainers (NASA G-Force Training), etc. and basic counseling. The purpose, as my friend commented, is to introduce you to as many of the worst possible chow-returning scenarios as possible so that flight in an aircraft is welcomed relief.

It worked for him. I have no statistics, but there is often a definitive link between motion sickness and the mind only...that is why driving instead of riding, piloting instead of riding, is often key: the mind concentrates on a task and forgets about the motion.
__________________
1996 FJ80.
Old 10-18-2010, 07:07 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Non Compos Mentis
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Off the grid- Almost
Posts: 10,598
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seahawk View Post
... a dynamic bag filler.
... the worst possible chow-returning scenarios .....
Two examples of great use of the english language. Thanks!
Old 10-18-2010, 07:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
AFC-911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,859
I get motion sickness when I'm reading or looking down in a moving vehicle & on a rocky boat ride.

I am fine with high speed rollercoasters, plane & helicopter rides.

I really don't get it.
Old 10-18-2010, 08:08 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Control Group
 
Tobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carmichael, CA
Posts: 53,579
Garage
Try closing your eyes on an E ticket rollercoaster.

We used to give the misbehaving jarheads a shoe box with a ball or an orange in it. You watch that baby rollin' around and you will get a second look at your lunch PDQ, even in mild seas.

As I understand it, motion sickness has a lot to do with your brain processing visual and inner ear data.

Peppermint is good for nausea

__________________
She was the kindest person I ever met
Old 10-18-2010, 11:42 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:29 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.