2 laps @ barber w jordan motorsports

[dlockhart]

[Cdnone1]

Thanks
I had no idea they moved their center of gravity around so much! When I was riding I kept my but glued to the center of the seat. Might also explain my times though
Steve

[HelmetHead]

Was watching a motoGP the other day and noticed the front runners throwing out their inside foot/leg just as they were going into a couple of turns almost like a dirt bike rider...looked crazy!

[JavaBrewer]

Its very interesting to watch his head movement - notice how far ahead he is looking into each turn.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Cdnone1

Thanks
I had no idea they moved their center of gravity around so much! When I was riding I kept my but glued to the center of the seat. Might also explain my times though
Steve

You haven't watched MotoGp much in the last several years.

Originally Posted by HelmetHead

Was watching a motoGP the other day and noticed the front runners throwing out their inside foot/leg just as they were going into a couple of turns almost like a dirt bike rider...looked crazy!

Only a couple riders doing that. It is new and definitely looks different. I wonder if it has to do with helping stability in trail braking.

[HelmetHead]

Originally Posted by milt

I wonder if it has to do with helping stability in trail braking.

Makes good sense to me...you slide that rear end around beyond control you're going to be looking to plant that foot anyways or get high-center booted trying to ride away from it

[herr_oberst]

It's amazing how tractable those bikes are.

Zero drama or fancy clutch work needed to leave the pits. Sharp contrast to 4 wheel race cars.

[dlockhart]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

It's amazing how tractable those bikes are.

Zero drama or fancy clutch work needed to leave the pits. Sharp contrast to 4 wheel race cars.

A few seasons ago a buddy let me take his AMA spec GSXR1000 out for a few laps.
It was eye opening how well it worked. I expected it to feel like dancing with a NFL offensive lineman but it was very neutral and even "light on it's feet" feeling.
(Having one properly set up by top level race techs probably helps a bunch.)
I turned onto the front straight at Topeka and rolled the throttle to the stop and in a blink went past S/F at a indicated 165mph. Like in the video from Barber, straights just vanish and it happens so easily.

[arcsine]

Originally Posted by HelmetHead

Was watching a motoGP the other day and noticed the front runners throwing out their inside foot/leg just as they were going into a couple of turns almost like a dirt bike rider...looked crazy!

Rossi started doing it a couple of years ago almost like he wanted to save a big slide and was going to flat-track it around a corner. As MotoGP is everything Rossi, other riders have copied him and are doing it too. I cannot figure out the benefit though. It is done mostly when the rider is braking hard in a straight line and moving the center of gravity to one side by throwing a leg out would seem to disrupt the braking limits. The only way I can see it helping would be to make yourself wider and potentially block a rider from cutting inside and passing you. Or by shifting the weight of the leg inside, the rider preemptively is getting weight shifted to the inside making the transition from vertical to full lean happen faster.

[Jeff Higgins]

Impressive stuff; well beyond anything I could ever dream of. I wonder how many trips to the hospital are involved in reaching that level of skill on a motorcycle.

As impressive as that is, not many road racers will even consider this. Raising the bar on sheer insanity:

YouTube - Isle Of Man TT 2009 Steve Plater Onboard video part 1 of 2

[Rusty Heap]

good god almighty..........

I'll just sit back in my fireside rocking chair with my cane at my side thank you very much.


signed

old fart.

[on2wheels52]

It looks like he gets 75 degrees from verticle but that can't be so.
Extreme upper-percentile riding, hats off to someone with skills like that. Far beyond anything I could do in my best days.
Jim

[MMARSH]

Originally Posted by arcsine

Rossi started doing it a couple of years ago almost like he wanted to save a big slide and was going to flat-track it around a corner. As MotoGP is everything Rossi, other riders have copied him and are doing it too. I cannot figure out the benefit though. It is done mostly when the rider is braking hard in a straight line and moving the center of gravity to one side by throwing a leg out would seem to disrupt the braking limits. The only way I can see it helping would be to make yourself wider and potentially block a rider from cutting inside and passing you. Or by shifting the weight of the leg inside, the rider preemptively is getting weight shifted to the inside making the transition from vertical to full lean happen faster.

Funny story about that. A couple of years ago after people starting doing the leg out move, a reporter asked Rossi why he did it. His response with a sly grin "I don't know why I do it, But I know why everyone else is doing it" classic Rossi. Hope he makes the Ducati a better bike and takes it to Lorenzo. Unfortunately I think I'm just dreaming. Next year should be a good year though.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by MMARSH

Funny story about that. A couple of years ago after people starting doing the leg out move, a reporter asked Rossi why he did it. His response with a sly grin "I don't know why I do it, But I know why everyone else is doing it" classic Rossi. Hope he makes the Ducati a better bike and takes it to Lorenzo. Unfortunately I think I'm just dreaming. Next year should be a good year though.

I love that guy. Talk about a breath of fresh air in racing. He seems to be having more fun than the rest of the field all put together, never taking himself seriously in any way.

[arcsine]

I'm hoping too that Burgess/Rossi can make the Ducati's rideable for more than Stoner.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by arcsine

I'm hoping too that Burgess/Rossi can make the Ducati's rideable for more than Stoner.

Nicky Hayden you mean?

[javadog]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Nicky Hayden you mean?

Nah,

Burgess the crew chief, Rossi the rider. They've been together a long time. Burgess goes back forever and the list of champions he's worked with is long, indeed. He's probably the best crew chief in motorcycle racing.

JR

[herr_oberst]

Did he follow Rossi from Honda to Yamaha?

[deanp]

Yes, he did.

[javadog]

Yes. He was with Honda long before Rossi joined them. He worked with Randy Mamola, Ron Haslam, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Mick Doohan.... All told, he's helped riders win 14 championships and over 150 races.

Essentially, Rossi takes "his crew" with him when he changes teams.

JR