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Milt,

Did not say that they had to be paid $100k but if you are going to have "an artist" working on your multi-million dollar car, do you want someone who is taking home $1000 every two weeks doing it?

Would think that someone in this position should be worth a good $60-80k and they deserve every penny of it. We pay our flight attendents $45k to start and they are a lot less trained than the mechanics we are talking about now.
We can't see eye to eye on this, Joe. I just don't equate money and talent. Lots of artists never make a dime until they're dead.

You know I'm as good as half the metal men in this country and the ones better than me a really good. Did you ever see the 911 front fender I did that came off a car that flipped and was flat as a tray on top? I straighted it out and finished it with no plastic filler and less than an once of lead at the bucket.

I also formed from a flat sheet the top front part of a 356A fender just behind the bucket. Big time compound curve and I welded it in. I don't even have an English wheel.

I'll send you pics if you don't believe it. Yet, I don't have anyone knocking on my mailbox trying to get metal work done.

It's not whether I want a highly paid person working on my car. It's whether he/she can do the work.

BTW, if I went to work here in CA for someone at 40K/yr., I would cost them 60 and they'd have to bill my time at 90-100/hr. while I made 20 just to make a decent profit after general overhead.

Old 12-04-2010, 09:29 AM
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some folks are proud of their work..
others charge for for showing up..
diff..a few bucks...
or folks like Milt would perhaps decline take a tip..
for a job well done..
the others..
expect same for .for just showing up..

Rika
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... I don't even have an English wheel.

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whoa!!

did you do it all on a wooden buck or what??
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whoa!!

did you do it all on a wooden buck or what??
I used a wood buck for the 356 piece, but a shot bag was better. I tuck formed over a steel mandrel but most of the work was hammer and dolly.

Now let me tell you the secret: you mostly free form the piece, then weld it in place. Now you have things secured where you can go after the thing with a vengeance.

I learned this on the 914 rear flares. Beat the crap out of them from the inside with a BF ball pein hammer making hellacious dimples that you simply work down with a slapper and a dolly. Everything "grows" into shape.

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