I liked this version when it came out back in the day. Back then it was well over $500 if I recall correctly. I never bought one of these cause I found earlier used versions that were NIB for cheaper. I bought this as a shootin spoon.

This was a pure impluse buy. I had bin kinda sorta wantin to buy another one for shootin purposes. Not very high on the priority list, but I had bin watchin and the price was still good so I made a bid and much to my surprise I got it.

Pissing match? :rolleyes:

It is a mute point as U can throw them both up in the air and which ever one comes down first is the best. For some reason I just liked the Browns better.

Maybe it was the cost differential, Wilsons are more expensive but are they that much better? Maybe it was the Wilson people I met at the Shot Show were more snobby and less willing to talk? Maybe I just thought the Browns were more appealing?

What I was really after was Browns Custom Classic, his flagship spoon. I had been watching the various auctions for one to show up for several years and this was among 5 or 6 that were in this paticualr auction so I snagged this one for less than I could buy it at Authorized Dealer, and it is NIB.

I would agree. The Ed Brown you have and the Wilson I have are strikingly similar in appearance.

Cheers
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I bought my first Ed Brown 2 weeks ago. I got the SF & it is an amazing gun!! It was a toss up between that and the Wilson CQB. The EB just fit me better. Either would be a good choice!

Next will be the EB SF carry!

I'd really like to have a relatively plain 1911. I don't want a light rail, I just want it to be reliable, and maybe one of the rounder hammers. I'd also really, really like to have a BHP. Hell, I'd even go for a Charles Daly HP for now.

Since money doesn't grow on trees, I'll be waiting for both.

The money the big names get for these guns today simply astounds me. Two, three, four thousand or more for a 1911? YGTBFKM... I bought a plain old mil-spec Springfield over 20 years ago that has consistantly shot with, or out shot, every big name big buck gun I've seen at my local range since. It's every bit as accurate, and it jams far less than these too tightly fitted "bragging guns". Plus, it's not "too expensive to carry". I paid $375 for it. A shooting buddy just bought a brand new one for not much more than that.

This is sorta what I find strange about the 1911 and avoided them for a long time (until 4 years ago). Always read about getting a $750 new colt, shipping it off to a smith or 3, waiting 12-18 months, spending an extra $1-1.5k, and finally getting a pistol that works and is accurate for combat ranges.

But then I spent $375 on a RIA GI style 1911 and some good 8rnd mags. Keeps them on a small pie plate at 25 yards, eats everything I've tried, and other than 4 jams in the first 100 rounds it has been dead nutz reliable.

So what does one get with the extra $$? for that kind of investment I'd get 2 of the RIAs and a metric buttload of ammo ...

I purchased a 1953 Colt 1911 for my father for his 75th birthday. It was 100% original and probably only had 20rds put through it when I purchased it. Bluing was 99% perfect. It's amazing to see how much better the Colts were made back then. It has been 100% reliable for my Dad too!

James

1911s are mechanical works of art to me and typically have sweet triggers for accurate bullseye type shooting. I will likely own one again someday if I ever take up centerfire bullseye competition shooting, but after witnessing them having way more problems in defensive IDPA type shooting......... Lets just say that I would rather trust my life to my Glock if I were in any kind of real world SHTF situations. YMMV

As long as we're pissing.............


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I think that lack of reliability in IDPA is a result of all the folks feeling the need to trick out their 1911's. They tend to want more accuracy out of them, and sacrifice reliability to get it. The guns are simply built too tight.

I've lost track of the number of guys I've seen showing up at the range over the years with these high dollar custom pistols that can't get through a whole magazine without jamming in some way. The owners invariably say "it isn't broken in yet...". Broken in my eye - that's what the 'smiths tell these guys when they take thousands of their dollars and return a gun that is less reliable than the one they started with. That, and now it has some god awfull cheese-grater sharp checkering on the front strap, bottom of the trigger guard, front of the trigger guard, and mainspring housing. You can't even shoot them without a shooting glove.

It's amazing to me what has happened in this market in the last 20 years or so. I know the 'smiths are simply meeting a demand (and making a fair living doing so), but I question the demand itself. I think it stems from guys' classic effort to "buy skill" and our need to have bragging rights in whatever circles we run. I see the latter at the range all the time - the "oohs" and "ahhhs" when such a high dollar piece comes out can be heard up and down the firing line. Then the guy starts to shoot it. He can't stay on the paper at 25 yards, the damn gun jams all the time, and everyone but me starts in on how "it just needs to be broken in...". He would have been far better off leaving the gun alone and spending those thousands on ammo.

here is mine. its never even been fired

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I am not 100% sure on why the 1911's have so many jams compared to the Glocks at a typical IDPA match, but one factor may be the hundred plus rounds that are fired at a match without a break for cleaning. There are probably finicky aftermarket mag problems too as most guys bring quite a few with them (3-4 mags are required to finish some stages). Empty mags are dropped on the ground during a stage and then they get reloaded for the next stage.... A little dirt on a plastic Glock mag does not typically cause problems my guess is that the same does not hold true for a shiny oiled new Kimber mag.

Except by the factory ;)


I have the exact same SA. I sent mine in with a frame that I didn't like (asymmetrically machined and poor coating). The factory agreed and they replaced the frame with a Trophy frame (with checkering on front) and machine flush the magwell to the frame.

Haven't fired it since it came back.

Would U like to have some wine with your whine. It is a nice fking spoon that I got at a good price relative to its retail and Dealer costs.

People with short Peee Pee's shuldn't get into pissing matches with Boyz who have fire hoses for dicks.

I know I've mentioned him before, but Ross Seyfreid (out of Oregon) won the world IDPA championship when it was held in South Africa some 20-odd years ago. He had a pair of matching 1911's that were built for him by one of the old 'smiths who knew what it was all about. This was back before the "race guns" took over, so his two guns would probably fit the "production gun" class these days. One can certainly buy guns today, right off the shelf, that are far more "custom" than his were.

Anyway, Mr. Seyfreid was adamant that he would not trust either gun in an important match - or with his life - if was clean. He insisted on putting several hundred rounds through them before he would have trusted them to have "settled down" and started to shoot consistantly.

I find it amazing that a combat sidearm that served our armed forces for generations, having earned an enviable reputation for reliability while doing so, can be so primped and preened as to render it unreliable. And shooters have been conned into not only accepting that, but paying vast sums for that... amazing...

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agree 100%

they are like cars. the more you mess around with the original setup the less time between repair-adjustment they require.

I like bone stock and hammered up 1911s. I also have a stock non 1911 based house piece.

My 911 is very far from stock except for the motor and it runs and runs and runs. No mucking with this or that in the paddock while the rest are on track.

Side bar stupid question. Where did calling them "spoons" come from?