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targa911S 05-21-2011 05:14 PM

Well that will do. Teflon scares me anyway.

azasadny 05-23-2011 03:54 PM

Tab Tanner visited yesterday and I showed him my other Remington Rand M1911A1 that has a mismatched slide and frame, but is in overall nice shape. I was considering re-Parkerizing this next, but he recommended that I leave it alone, so I will. When I acquired the gun, it had a Colt slide on a Remington Rand frame and I traded the slide for a nice, but recently re-Parkerized slide, so the gun is "bi-color".

azasadny 05-27-2011 03:58 PM

The Parkerizing chemicals will be here Tuesday and I'll see if the sandblaster is done with the parts on Tuesday also. Could be re-Parkerizing next Wed-Fri.

mossguy 05-27-2011 04:00 PM

Good Luck on the redo, Art!

azasadny 06-04-2011 11:53 AM

Parkerizing day..., pt 1
 
Well, I gave it another shot today and it turned out even better than I expected or hoped it would...
Degreasing the frshly sandblasted parts in lacquer thinner...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307216625.jpg
hot water rinse...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307216709.jpg
Into the stainless steel tank with 1 1/2qt of Parkerizing solution...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307216812.jpg
Parkerizing process going on...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307216895.jpg
Into the hot water rinse after 25 min of Parkerizing (bubbling stopped)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307216993.jpg
After the rinse, parts were submerged in WD40 for an hour to cool down...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217075.jpg
Cleaned up and heated parts , coated with grease...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217168.jpg

azasadny 06-04-2011 12:04 PM

Parkerizing day..., pt 2
 
Parts soaking in Rig grease (Thanks, David!)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217312.jpg
I Parkerized my old pitted slide from the Remington Model 51 that David restored for me to test the process...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217389.jpg
The gun is a lighter color than the pictures show... perfect for me!
The zinc phosphate gave it a nice light gray finish...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217478.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217528.jpg


So, I had Parkerizing solution sitting around and I'm "restoring" this old Charmglow grill, so what do you think I did?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217651.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217718.jpg
I Parkerized the top rack of the grill just because I could...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307217791.jpg

Overall, a very productive and satisfying day!! The sandblaster did a great job on the M1911A1 and the Charmglow grill, which I believe gave me the excellent results I got...

targa911S 06-04-2011 12:16 PM

EXCELLENT JOB ART!!!! Good for you!

Seahawk 06-04-2011 12:31 PM

This is good news!

azasadny 06-04-2011 12:47 PM

Thanks, guys! This was an "on" day for me. everything I did worked out great. I just wish I could have these days more often!! I'll reassemble the M1911A1 tomorrow and post more pics. I'm off to church, then to visit some very old friends who aren't doing too well... What a nice day!

azasadny 06-05-2011 03:13 AM

I'll post some "before and after" pictures today after I reassemble the gun.

oldE 06-05-2011 04:44 AM

Art,

Very happy to see your latest posts.
Hard to believe the change in appearance from the first trial (and I mean that in both senses of the word). Glad you were able to pull it off with some good advice.

Well done and thanks again for sharing.
Les

fred cook 06-05-2011 08:23 AM

And the Winnah.........
 
is Art! Congratulations on having the perserverance to "beat" the process! Knew that you could do it!!!

azasadny 06-05-2011 09:03 AM

More pics...
 
Thanks, Les!

Here's what the spoon looks like after reassembly. Still lots of grease oozing from the spoon...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307292724.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307292772.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307292823.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307292860.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307292915.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307292954.jpg

What it looked like before I started this project...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307293344.jpg

azasadny 06-05-2011 09:12 AM

More "before" re-Parkerizing pics...
 
This is what the old battle axe looked like before I started this project... You can see how crappy the "home bluing" was on the gun. There were spots all over and the bluing was incorrectly applied and was just horrible...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307293510.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307293596.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307293685.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307293781.jpg
Many thanks to David, Fred, Les, and everyone ... for the good advice and for not letting me give up on this! I'm very happy with the results!!

azasadny 06-05-2011 10:01 AM

More Parkerizing info...
 
I used this chemical...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307296592.jpg
Receipt from Paul Johnston (PJ's Gun and Metal Care Products)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307296672.jpg

You use 1oz of Parkerizing chemical for each quart of distilled water, I used 1 1/2 quarts for the pistol. This is the "lighter" zinc phosphate, which give the light-med gray color. If you use the manganese phosphate, you'll get a darker-black color. The chemical is very easy to use, hardly any fumes, no damage to anything, easy to clean up and relatively effortless. Cleaning, degreasing the gun is most important. I believe the 70-80 grit aluminum oxide media the sandblaster used was the right choice for surface prep.

azasadny 06-05-2011 11:37 AM

More "after" pictures...
 
The M1911A1 I Parkerized yesterday is on the left...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307302297.jpg
The M1911A1 I Parkerized yesterday is on the bottom...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307302342.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307302400.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307302462.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307302528.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307302580.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1307302628.jpg

mossguy 06-05-2011 12:26 PM

Well done, Art! That is beautiful!

azasadny 06-05-2011 03:46 PM

Tom,

Thanks! Without your's and David's and Fred's encouragement, I may have given up on this. The gun looked so bad after the 1st attempt to Parkerize that I though the process must be finicky/difficult/unreliable, but it was the Teflon that caused the problems I experienced. The Radocy chemical really does a great job and the sandblaster really created a nice surface for the chemicals to work on. I'm looking for stuff to Parkerize now!

azasadny 06-07-2011 02:03 AM

It's amazing how much grease/oil the recently Parkerized gun soaks up!

azasadny 06-07-2011 09:45 AM

Every evening I reapply some Rig grease and the next day, it's dry again. I was told it's very important to keep a freshly Parkerized gun wet with grease until it stops absorbing it...


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