What's with this weather?

[sc_rufctr]

I've just heard on our local news that a massive snow front is crossing the US.



Meanwhile a monster Cyclone is headed for Queensland, Australia. Which should hit in about 5 hours.

[widgeon13]

Hope you aren't effected by the cyclone, we're getting heavy snow. Guess mother nature is pissed!

[exc911ence]

I think Mother Earth is finally sick of our crap and wants us gone.

That, or it's GloBULL Warming...

[sammyg2]

It'd due to man's burning of fossil fuels.
Please ignore the fact that this type of winter occurs about every 50 years in this country and has been doing that since long before man discovered fossil fuels.

About 250 years ago we came out of a mini-ice age, based on what I've read it was similar to this winter but was more severe and lasted for a long, long time.
If our founding fathers hadn't burned so much gasoline getting to this country that never would have happened

Oh wait, was the mayflower diesel powered?
ROFLMAO

[sc_rufctr]

I don't think it's global warming either but something is definitely changing.

We're not important to "Mother Earth" or the planet.
We just exist hoping we can make decent lives for ourselves and our children.

What I think about is what's life going to be like in 20 years time?

Will the Earth ever become unlivable???

[widgeon13]

Unlivable? Perhaps in 200 to 2000 years. I see population as more of a near term threat than global warming.

If global warming is not a myth and land mass is reduced in low sea level geography then population will drive our demise. It will not be pretty, remember that thread on India, imagine that globally.

[azasadny]

Already hit here. It's still snowing and we have 12" of snow so far. This is the 1st time Michigan State University (MSU) has closed due to weather in 30-some years. I'm working on an IT project for Delta Dental and they are closed due to weather, which is the 1st time in their company history they've closed because of bad weather.

[azasadny]

Taken 5 minutes ago...

[kaisen]

Sounds like fun. We were at the front of the churn, and really missed out. We only got 4-5" and now it's beautifully sunny, but frigid cold.

[azasadny]

The porch railing is 4ft tall, so that may give you an idea how tall the drifts are here.

[sc_rufctr]

You guys must be freezing...

The Cyclone in Queensland is in full swing now. We'll find out in the morning how bad it was.

[azasadny]

I'm not even leaving the apartment today, no reason to... If people stay off the roads, the road crews will be able to clear them faster. Most businesses are closed, anyway...

[RWebb]

contrary to what some know nothings have posted, more and larger extreme storms are happening now and appear to be outside of the "envelope" of the past century, much less 50 years

second, this is fully consistent with, and a prediction of most global warming models - the very simplified version: more heat means more energy in the atmosphere; that energy "comes out" as bigger storms & as more storms

the greater freq. of extreme weather events has harmed the ability of many areas to grow crops ---> hence commodity prices have gone up, esp. for grains* ---> several economists & political analysts have linked this rise to political instability (e.g. Egypt)

this is exactly what the Pentagon has predicted would happen; tho obviously the details cannot be foreseen

I expect it all to get worse.


* so far, food prices in the US have been buffered from this, in part b/c the cost of the actual grains are such a small part of the total cost here; but in Egypt and similar countries people often buy grains by the sack

[tabs]

Turn up the AC, I can feel the heat from Global warming...

[tabs]

Originally Posted by RWebb

contrary to what some know nothings have posted, more and larger extreme storms are happening now and appear to be outside of the "envelope" of the past century, much less 50 years

second, this is fully consistent with, and a prediction of most global warming models - the very simplified version: more heat means more energy in the atmosphere; that energy "comes out" as bigger storms & as more storms

the greater freq. of extreme weather events has harmed the ability of many areas to grow crops ---> hence commodity prices have gone up, esp. for grains* ---> several economists & political analysts have linked this rise to political instability (e.g. Egypt)

this is exactly what the Pentagon has predicted would happen; tho obviously the details cannot be foreseen

I expect it all to get worse.


* so far, food prices in the US have been buffered from this, in part b/c the cost of the actual grains are such a small part of the total cost here; but in Egypt and similar countries people often buy grains by the sack

Models you say, I used to build model aeroplanes as a child. If I recall I never could get them to fly properly.

The data collected over the last 50 to 100 years is an impressive predictor of future weather trends as it is so comprehensive of weather trends over time as referenced to geologic time.

I do find your meteorologic scientists are full of conceit and arrogance to think that their models and 100 years of collected data is in anyway a true reflection of global weather patterns. You might just call this a pseudoscience..as the data collected is so miniscule in the scheme of Global time.

[RWebb]

climate scientists are not trying to predict "global time"

you also do not understand that mathematical models are used

post agin if you have other misconceptions