Sooo.. how do I cram....

[WolfeMacleod]

...approximately 300 square feet of working space down to about 120 square feet without gettign in each other's way?

We signed a lease on a house yesterday..the big brown one I posted about... The workshop area is 12x12 feet.

Our current footage is a little over 300 square feet in the 600 square foot garage I occupy till the end of the month.
Bandsaw. Drill press. Thread tapping machine. Belt Sander, bench grinder, Hotplate and wax vat. Coil winding table. Assembly table. Staging bench for stuff to be assembled. Staging table for stuff that's completed. Then there are - racks of wire spools, racks of parts, bins of magnets, drawers of parts, packing supplies, filing cabinets... and more!

I don't see it happening


And... where do I put the car stuff in a 14x10 foot garage?

Lady is about to get a serious lesson in how important WORK SPACE IS.

When I get complaints about long lead times due to inefficient working conditions brought on by her dislike of places that would have worked, she's outta-here.

[Rusty Heap]

Sorry man, even with my 3000 square feet of shop within 30 steps of my house, I feel your pain.


Never enough room. Mine's full, Ask Higgins...........




I don't know how HE can do it with 2 boys, 3 porsches, and umpteen VW bugs and Subarus and Cycles to wrench on..........

you need more space, I can't imagine working in a College Dorm Studio Apartment sized room you're describing. 12 x12 feet? Heck I need more room than that to just pisss and make a helicopter pattern..........

[Zeke]

I'd divide the stuff between dust making and clean. Take the coil winding table into the main house along with the assembly table.

Filing cabinets and all office gear go into a corner of a room inside for book work and a quiet place to talk on the phone.

Lastly, I'd get some overhead cabinets for storage of materials out in the shop as well as overhead open racks. If you can't look across, look up.

If you do finishing, I'd look into getting a metal shed for just finishing and drying. A small heater will get you by in the cold months.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by milt

I'd divide the stuff between dust making and clean. Take the coil winding table into the main house along with the assembly table.

Filing cabinets and all office gear go into a corner of a room inside for book work and a quiet place to talk on the phone.

Lastly, I'd get some overhead cabinets for storage of materials out in the shop as well as overhead open racks. If you can't look across, look up.

Milt, I've considered that. However.. bits of wire, tape, and solder ground into the carpet do not make for happy feet. Or landlords. Or women. My garage floor is littered with the stuff, and I do my best to keep it down.
Should have seen the carpet in my old apartment. And we didn't even work in there...we worked in the garage.

[flatbutt]

can you build a loft for the lightweight stuff? oh its a rental...never mind

[WolfeMacleod]

I also can't be trucking all over the house to the workshop every time I need to use a tool...like the drill press. Or tapper. Which is VERY frequent.
No door connects the two.

[RWebb]

ask the LL about adding a loft - tell the LL you will do all work to code & sign a paper for him that he can at his option choose to retain it or have you remove it

check out some things that woodworkers have done in their shops re vertical storage and moving bench tops around

[Paul K]

Go buy a nice shed. Then take it with you when you leave.

[Zeke]

Well, I can see you've been inconvenienced to the point of being majorly pissed off. You really didn't come here for advice, you just wanted to vent.

It's your dog, walk it.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by milt

Well, I can see you've been inconvenienced to the point of being majorly pissed off. You really didn't come here for advice, you just wanted to vent.

It's your dog, walk it.

A little, I suppose, but I do need to figure out how to squeeze a square peg into a round hole. I would say that "majorly" is a bit of an understatement here because she's refused to understand that the business needs what it needs.

My assembly guy and I discussed the metal shed earlier today and using it for the dirty work, putting it on the concrete pad in the rear just outside the workshop door. I was looking up information about them, but wasn't able to find any size/price info. Insulated would be best.

[Rusty Heap]

wahhhhhhhh.

buy a rubbermaid storage shed.

vent all you want.


she doesn't understand...............so?

life is short, build it, buy it, work in it.........

what's your point? Walmart has shelving, hang milk crates from your ceiling..............


I know a wood worker who set up his lathes and band saws in his living room making a living.


So does the girl or the needed business shop space go? that seems to be your question?

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

wahhhhhhhh.

buy a rubbermaid storage shed.

Rusty... you do realise that this is a production facility here, right? And that I produce on occasion some very large numbers of products?
For seven years, I worked in a one car garage. It was so small and cramped, that we were in each other's way. I had to move tools to use tools frequently, then move them back to use other tools. We had three, four month, or sometime longer lead times. We worked 16 hours a day to catch up. We had pissed off customers because lead times were long.
With the space I've worked in for the last two years, we've been able to cut that 16 hours a day down to about four. And almost zero lead times.

Parts and supplies - must be stored inside. They cannot be exposed to weather, moisture, extreme tempuratures without causing damage. A $500 spool of wire leeching up moisture? Bad for coils. Metal parts becoming corroded and tarnished? Goobye $1000's of dollars worth of parts.

Does your woodworker friend operate a production facility in his living room? Does he operate efficiently, and is he expected to produce a certain number of products to meet customer demands? Do delays cause order cancellations when builders can't get his product in time to get thier product to thier customers?

Ever heard of LEAN manufacturing? Efficiency is important.
Rebuild an entire car in your bathroom. In a week. Then tell me "waaaah"
I want to rent your shop

[porsche4life]

Ditch the woman, rent a place that works for you....

[EarlyPorsche]

Your work sounds kinda cool! What is it that you manufacture?

[Evans, Marv]

Aren't there any garages/sheds/whatever in your area you could rent cheaply just for your shop?

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche

Your work sounds kinda cool! What is it that you manufacture?

Welll....I'm one of a handful of people in the world who do what I do. Not counting a few large companies that mass-produce...
I make electric guitar pickups for several guitar companies, several stores throughout the world, and anyone else who wants them.


Welcome to my work.

For our very own Slodave and his LP build.


Coil winder. You don't want to know how much it was.


Wire


Waiting to be packed


Rack-o-parts



Drawers-o-parts and assembly suppliues. Solder, various tapes, pre-prepped work, magnets, etc.



Shop


More Shop


More Shop





Pardon the mess. I know it could be cleaner. On the back wall is a large bench that holds things in various stages, misc repairs, wax vat, etc. On the left wall bench holds drill press, tapping, parts bins, magnet cupboard, parts drawers, and amplifiers underneath, etc...



And this doesn't show what's through the door. the Dirty Room. Cutting, gridning, chemical work....

[WolfeMacleod]

And some things just need to be kept well and far away from this...

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv

Aren't there any garages/sheds/whatever in your area you could rent cheaply just for your shop?

Looked at ActiveSpace today. they was almost $700/mo

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Ditch the woman, rent a place that works for you....

Wouldn't have mattered. There wasn't any place that worked really. Well, there was but she nixed a few, or the house just didn't work at all. Or they were scooped out form under us a few times. Or too expensive. Or no parking area. Or no pets. Or... you get the idea....

[Jim Bremner]

Imagine a trailer hitch receiver.

Several receivers moounted where you would need them, all tools needed would have a male insert that pins into the receiver. Build a rack or have the tools hang from the ceiling.

Get a cuople of plastic buckets that seal to keep your wire clean and dry.

[slodave]

Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod

For our very own Slodave and his LP build.

Whoo hoo! Looks good. Too bad I'm having it covered for now.