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Rodsrsr 03-17-2011 12:25 PM

How do cut down this tree???
 
Seriously...I don't know where to start. Pretty weird the way it fell on the post.
So all you engineers, where do I make the first cut?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1300393247.jpg


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BRPORSCHE 03-17-2011 12:32 PM

I would move right to left. Gradually taking weight off the base.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1300393962.jpg

Edit: I just realized I was contradicting myself. way to mix up my left and rights! Doh!

Burnin' oil 03-17-2011 12:35 PM

How about right to left.

BRPORSCHE 03-17-2011 12:38 PM

I was trying to preserve the fence.

Aerkuld 03-17-2011 12:42 PM

Right to left. Cut off the overhang first moving towards the post. Once you have a minimum of overhang over the post I'd move the other side of the fence. Chock the trunk up with some of the wood from the other end so you can chop it into managable pieces.

I'm not a tree surgeon, nor do I play one on T.V.

Rodsrsr 03-17-2011 12:42 PM

I'm not too worried about the fence, its only hot wire with tee-posts. I'm just concerned that when I start cutting, it will fall off the post thats holding it up. Looking for the safest way. Thanks.:)

Rodsrsr 03-17-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerkuld (Post 5907570)
Right to left. Cut off the overhang first moving towards the post. Once you have a minimum of overhang over the post I'd move the other side of the fence. Chock the trunk up with some of the wood from the other end so you can chop it into managable pieces.

I'm not a tree surgeon, nor do I play one on T.V.

Sounds like a reasonable plan. Thats why I love this forum! SmileWavy

Burnin' oil 03-17-2011 12:45 PM

If you don't care about the fence, then I would undercut a notch near the base of the tree and then cut downward until the trunk falls, smashing the fence.

Burnin' oil 03-17-2011 12:48 PM

I have cut down hundreds, if not thousands, of trees. If it's a big tree, like yours, I like to get as much weight on the ground as possible.

cgarr 03-17-2011 12:51 PM

burn it

Burnin' oil 03-17-2011 12:53 PM

Build a guitar out of it.

maxnine11 03-17-2011 12:59 PM

Stand it back up !!

GH85Carrera 03-17-2011 01:10 PM

A stick or two of dynamite should do it.

pete3799 03-17-2011 01:14 PM

Wait.....this is in Ca?......by the time you get a permit to cut it down it will have turned into worm food.

UconnTim97 03-17-2011 01:19 PM

Wasn't there someone here with a spare hand grenade?

GH85Carrera 03-17-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 5907646)
Wait.....this is in Ca?......by the time you get a permit to cut it down it will have turned into worm food.

You may have to do a environmental study to determine the best way to remove the tree.

Seahawk 03-17-2011 01:51 PM

The post isn't holding up the tree, the lower, large trunk-like branch is...I bet it is embedded six inches deep in the ground. That tree weights many, many tons.

I'd get a good pole saw and and trim right to left, get the weight off as Burnin' Oil mentioned. Before you do anything, however, clean the little stuff first and make sure you get all the crap around the tree cleared. I always want a clear path to scoot, exercising the better part of valor.

You'll know a lot more on how best to attack the big stuff after that. My bet is that trimming off the top large branch first, leaving the lower section to support while you cut, will work best.

I've had to deal with two Oaks that fell on my farm. Get the weight off.

john70t 03-17-2011 01:55 PM

Just a random thought.
Don't know what kind of tree that is, but there is a guy around here that mills and sells "reclaimed lumber" at a hefty price. Mostly hardwoods like cherry and oak. People with wood stoves are always looking for fuel as well(edit oops forgot this is cauli).

The small stuff would make a good brush/multch pile, mabye even get some rabbits in there. The big stuff could be carved for a lawn sculpture.

sammyg2 03-17-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 5907646)
Wait.....this is in Ca?......by the time you get a permit to cut it down it will have turned into worm food.

I'm surprised daryl Hanna and a bunch of smelly berkeley hippies aren't living in it to protest it getting cut down ;)

KFC911 03-17-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seahawk (Post 5907706)
...you'll know a lot more on how best to attack the big stuff after that. My bet is that trimming off the top large branch first, leaving the lower section to support while you cut, will work best....

+1

MES 944 03-17-2011 02:49 PM

Be careful it doesn't roll on you.

McLovin 03-17-2011 02:51 PM

There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the tree.

oldE 03-17-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 5907737)
I'm surprised daryl Hanna and a bunch of smelly berkeley hippies aren't living in it to protest it getting cut down ;)

That's probably why it fell: Exceeding the registered number of protesters.

Seriously though, as said before: get the weight off the right side (tree top). Work slowly, make sure you have a scoot route.

Les

Hugh R 03-17-2011 03:51 PM

Rent a gas-powered pole saw to stay away from it. The stuff on the right side may roll as you remove it and work on the trunk right to left, especially at the pole it's resting on.

Tobra 03-17-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 5907646)
Wait.....this is in Ca?......by the time you get a permit to cut it down it will have turned into worm food.

If that is an oak tree, you had best delete this thread or you are liable to get fined.

I would pull it off the post first, chain and pull it with your tractor or whatever, assuming you don't mind killing that fence. Then it can't fall off its precarious perch at an inopportune time. Then you can cut the whole thing up on the ground. I think Paul is right about a lot of weight on the branch, but that fencepost looks buckled some, and is bearing weight too. Pole saw would be good to keep you out of harms way while working on smaller pieces. It is going to start raining again tomorrow, so you might need to wait for a little bit of dry weather.

Where is that, out by Los Lagos off Auburn Folsom Rd?

RWebb 03-17-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 5907706)
The post isn't holding up the tree, the lower, large trunk-like branch is...I bet it is embedded six inches deep in the ground. That tree weights many, many tons.

I'd get a good pole saw and and trim right to left, get the weight off as Burnin' Oil mentioned. Before you do anything, however, clean the little stuff first and make sure you get all the crap around the tree cleared. I always want a clear path to scoot, exercising the better part of valor.

You'll know a lot more on how best to attack the big stuff after that. My bet is that trimming off the top large branch first, leaving the lower section to support while you cut, will work best.

I've had to deal with two Oaks that fell on my farm. Get the weight off.

exactly -- you can easily prove this to yourself by cutting the fence post in half

KFC911 03-17-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 5907962)
...I would pull it off the post first, chain and pull it with your tractor or whatever, assuming you don't mind killing that fence. Then it can't fall off its precarious perch at an inopportune time.

That would take some serious equipment imo. Thinking "out loud" here...a few well placed shots from a 44 mag (or equivalent) would remove the post from a safe distance however :). I'm not kidding...

legion 03-17-2011 05:26 PM

Like this:

http://www.callexperttree.com/tree_in_house.jpg

Bill Douglas 03-17-2011 05:30 PM

The b1tch, i'd punish it first.

As said above make sure it doesn't roll on you. And it may right itself once the trunk is cut. Sadly there was a case of a guys little girls playing in the hollow of a large stump and the trunk righted itself when the tree was chopped off :(

RWebb 03-17-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 5908072)

xlnt example of why loggers are tree-huggers

that guy didn't

MBAtarga 03-17-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRPORSCHE (Post 5907545)
I would move right to left. Gradually taking weight off the base.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1300393962.jpg

Edit: I just realized I was contradicting myself. way to mix up my left and rights! Doh!

If you go this route - make the right-most cut from the bottom of the branch up, othewise, the chainsaw bar will be wedged.

aigel 03-17-2011 06:58 PM

Right to left in 3 foot sections. Fun job if you have a good saw.

G

Rodsrsr 03-17-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 5907962)
If that is an oak tree, you had best delete this thread or you are liable to get fined.

I would pull it off the post first, chain and pull it with your tractor or whatever, assuming you don't mind killing that fence. Then it can't fall off its precarious perch at an inopportune time. Then you can cut the whole thing up on the ground. I think Paul is right about a lot of weight on the branch, but that fencepost looks buckled some, and is bearing weight too. Pole saw would be good to keep you out of harms way while working on smaller pieces. It is going to start raining again tomorrow, so you might need to wait for a little bit of dry weather.

Where is that, out by Los Lagos off Auburn Folsom Rd?

Nice call...I'm about a mile from the entrance to Folsom Lake ....Granite Bay.

Eric Coffey 03-17-2011 09:01 PM

Whatever you do, please film it. Preferably with the following opening monologue:

[starts chainsaw]
Rod: "Hold my beer.....watch this."

:D

GH85Carrera 03-18-2011 04:44 AM

Pics or it did not happen!

ErVikingo 03-18-2011 04:50 AM

Where I live you would have to call the tree department of the town to get permission, then apply for a permit before they would let you cut the tree.

After that, by law, you have to replace the tree with the same caliper (trunk width).

One exception, cleanup after a hurricane. But then, you still have to replace the caliper..... Last storm I had to replace 1 tree with 6 smaller ones.

Did I just go PARF?

Rodsrsr 03-18-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErVikingo (Post 5908689)
Where I live you would have to call the tree department of the town to get permission, then apply for a permit before they would let you cut the tree.

After that, by law, you have to replace the tree with the same caliper (trunk width).

One exception, cleanup after a hurricane. But then, you still have to replace the caliper..... Last storm I had to replace 1 tree with 6 smaller ones.

Did I just go PARF?


Fortunately that wont apply because we own the property where the tree is planted. That fence is not the property line, its just a hot wire to keep our horses in. :p

Tobra 03-18-2011 08:46 AM

It almost certainly will apply if that is a valley oak

Rodsrsr 03-18-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 5909165)
It almost certainly will apply if that is a valley oak


Ok, you win.. I'll replant a tree that weighs thousands of pounds on the edge of a creek where there is not enough dirt to keep it standing just to be a good little citizen. Then I watch it fall again and do it all over. SmileWavy

RWebb 03-18-2011 10:09 AM

I'm sure you can replant somewhere else - contact the state or county or whomever & see. You might get free saplings out of it. Your livestock want some shade anyway.


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