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Somewhere in the Midwest
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AR-spoon trigger
I'm building a 308AR and need a good trigger. I've never used a two-stage or adjustable one. Give me the Cliff Notes on these, please.
Timney? Jard? Geissele? Single stage? Adjustable? 2 stage? What to buy for DCM type spoon? |
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03-27-2011, 09:18 PM
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Jewell.
Not sure if they make them for AR10 type rifles though. Do they use the standard AR internals? |
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03-27-2011, 09:24 PM
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Somewhere in the Midwest
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Same as an ARI5. I could use the trigger off my ARs if I need to. Here's a Jewell trigger but why not use with mil. ammo?
Jewell Trigger Assembly AR-15 Small Pin .154" Two Stage Matte - MidwayUSA |
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03-27-2011, 09:31 PM
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Got me. Maybe the hammer spring is lighter, and doesn't pop hard primers reliably?
I have never had a problem, but then I don't think I ever shot military ammo through that rifle. |
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03-27-2011, 09:38 PM
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Light hammer spring would be my guess too.
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03-27-2011, 09:41 PM
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One of the user comments on Brownells claims it doesn't work on 308 rifles. Then again, one of the comments claims it requires a special safety which is BS.
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03-27-2011, 09:42 PM
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Somewhere in the Midwest
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My lower receiver will take any ARI5 fire group part. Just a matter of the spring force to pop a 308 primer.
Maybe something like this if adjustability isn't critical? Geissele Super Dynamic Trigger Combat Version AR-15, LR-308 Small Pin .154" Matte - MidwayUSA |
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03-27-2011, 09:49 PM
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Not sure I like that straight trigger.
And why didn't my link to Brownells post? I can see it if I edit my post, but it doesn't show up. |
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03-27-2011, 09:56 PM
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03-27-2011, 10:14 PM
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Timney.
Very happy with mine. Easy drop-in installation and a crisp break @ 4.0 lbs.
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03-28-2011, 01:24 AM
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It's all personal preference. Find some local shops or shooters that will let you dry fire some. I don't think you can go wrong with any. The Timney and the Chip McCormick are my personal favorites.
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03-28-2011, 06:23 AM
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If you will be shooting actual DCM matches there are limits on what your trigger can do/be, I'd check into that.
Otherwise, all of the triggers mentioned are quality.
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03-28-2011, 06:30 AM
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A Man of Wealth and Taste
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2 stage match trigger..
also a Noveske 21 inch SS Barrel.
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03-28-2011, 08:20 AM
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Stick to smoke-poles and wheelguns, tabby.
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03-28-2011, 09:36 AM
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03-28-2011, 01:04 PM
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I have a Timney in my DPMS LR308 AP4. Nice trigger quality and easy to install. Worth the $200 when I consider the time and effort in getting my JP in the AR15 to feel as good as the Timney. The JP was $160!
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03-28-2011, 01:56 PM
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Is the Timney so good that you guys don't feel the need for any adjustments? Troy, your JP and adjustable I take it.
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03-28-2011, 02:27 PM
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Knights uses a nice and crisp 2 stage match trigger... I own a Knights SR 25 and have handled the Noveske AR15 carbine and Knights SR15...that a friend just picked up..this weekend he took out the SR15 and just loved the trigger pull of the 2 stage. So go climb back up into the tree from whence you came and fling your shyte elsewhere.
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03-28-2011, 03:48 PM
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Tabbydoll, I get sub-MOA out of a DPMS barrel. After a minimum level of manufacturing tolerances have been met, it's the Indian, not the arrow, that counts. The question wasn't about barrels, or a way-overpriced safe queen.
The balance of your response, "2 stage match trigger..", provides little information. The options there run the gamut from the RRA 2-stage ($100) to the Knight's 2-stage at (again, overpriced) $300 street. Though some dislike them I've had no problems with the RRA in two of my AR-15s. I'm not a big two-stage trigger fan but they're certainly better than the craptastic standard trigger and they're inexpensive. Care to make a recommendation based on what you use?
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03-28-2011, 04:21 PM
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Two things I don't know anything about, triggers and optics... Sorry I can't offer any suggestions! I love the AR-10 and I wish you luck with the project!!
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