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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 5953463)

Isn't this a natural thinning of the herd? Too bad the child had to suffer, but what chance does he really have for a future anyway, unless he gets the heck out of there?

Dude. That's a pretty bizarre way to look at it.

If you get run over by a car, or if your kid gets shot at school, shall we call it "Thinning of the herd?"

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Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 5953447)

Tim,

<snip>and two the liberals around this great country feel that videos like this are "too harsh" to be shown to everyone and thus people do not see just what really happens.

Joe

uhh...not sure political leanings have the least bit to do with how this would go over anywhere. If the argument held, you would be able to fire up the video at issue on Sunday morning in nearly any conservative church and get a giant "Amen" from the congregation. Not likely Not even reasonable to think that you'd be well received once.

Polemics ....pffft.

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Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 5953447)

Tim,

The sad thing is that one, they are still doing it today, and two the liberals around this great country feel that videos like this are "too harsh" to be shown to everyone and thus people do not see just what really happens.

This video was shot I believe by a German video crew and aired on a UK PBS channel. At least the Europeans have the balls to show things like this. If it ever aired here in the states and was not censored it sure would change a lot of people's views on life in Africa.

Joe

Traditional circumcision, both male and female is alive and well in Africa. Usually it is not concensual, and most often it really endangers the life of the individual.

Around here informal "initiation schools" are run in rural areas during winter, where forced circumcisions are performed on all boys of a certain age (about 16 years and older). Usually these are of the box-cutter persuasion, though the really traditional ones use (blunt) spears. Sterilization of such "surgical equipment" is arbitrary at best, and many young men die of complications every year - the number is usuall in the low hundreds.

Thankfully, amongst tribes here in SA, female circumcision is either not well established as a tradition, or sometimes eradicated through education, as I can only imagine how high the fatality rate would have been if this were the case.

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Originally Posted by azasadny (Post 5953263)

Keemonta..... what a lyrical name...

Gosh, I never would have known if I hadn't seen the picture.

Is that like Keemonta dragon? Where do they get these names?