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krystar 04-12-2011 01:20 PM

u solve what's INSIDE the () first.

48/2(12) = 48/2*12

the 2 is NOT inside the ()


then 48/2*12 is all mults and divisions. u evaluate left to right.
48 divide by 2 times 12.

= FRIGGING 288!

romad 04-12-2011 01:41 PM

WOW 2(9+3) is a single term by defintion of the Distributive property...... read it

a(b+c) = ab+ac

ex 5(4+2)
(20+10) or
= 30
or
5(4+2)
5(6)
=30

wrong way

5(4+2)
5*4+2
=22

DARISC 04-12-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 5959436)
Yeah, that sucks, apparantly Wolfram alpha has a different use of the () vs the []

I mearly used different brackets to show which closing bracket goes with which opening bracket. They were supposed to have equal weight in my examples

Isn't Wolfram using them like you are? I never think to use brackets and then, being clerically challenged to begin with, get all screwed up with the openings and closings.

I posted both of the below earlier because I used Wolf to verify my work. Here they are again for both equations; do 62% here think Wolf is giving the wrong answer to both equations, i.e., is Wolf a faulty calculator?

And, as far as the answer differing depending on how one uses the equation, is there really more than one 'correct' way? If so, that would really shake my faith in math.

But then, I once took a course in projective geometry which is non-Euclidian and wherein parallel lines DO cross. Oy vey. :rolleyes:

Anyway, unless Wolf is faulty, these are the right answers:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1302643387.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1302643406.jpg

M.D. Holloway 04-12-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybek (Post 5959673)
Can't we just divide 288 by 2 and everyone could be happy?

damn liberal

M.D. Holloway 04-12-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krystar (Post 5959727)
u solve what's INSIDE the () first.

48/2(12) = 48/2*12

the 2 is NOT inside the ()


then 48/2*12 is all mults and divisions. u evaluate left to right.
48 divide by 2 times 12.

= FRIGGING 288!

but after you do what is in the '( )' then you establish the numerator and the denominator - that means you must do the multiplication first. Division is last.

krystar 04-12-2011 01:48 PM

distributive property doesn't let u distribute only part of a common factor over the elements.

doing proper distributive, would be
48/2(9+3) = 48/2*9 + 48/2*3


apply distributive rule,
a/b(c+d) = a/b*c + a/b*d

krystar 04-12-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 5959768)
but after you do what is in the '( )' then you establish the numerator and the denominator - that means you must do the multiplication first. Division is last.

multiplication and division have the SAME priority. you do NOT do multiplication first then division. you apply the operators left to right!!!!!

sammyg2 04-12-2011 01:49 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1302644963.jpg

krystar 04-12-2011 01:53 PM

i'm tired of teaching 4th grade arithmetic .

48/2(9+3) - Google Search

if u don't believe it, too bad.

chocolatelab 04-12-2011 02:38 PM

Damn. I was sure it was 2. Then I read the next post and that made sense. 288. Then i read the next post. Whew, Chris you are not crazy it is 2. Then I read the next post, crap 288 does make sense. Then the ne............

I'm afraid to even open this anymore

Brando 04-12-2011 02:45 PM

Next you are going to prove that 2 is a rational number.

I'm out!

abisel 04-12-2011 02:50 PM

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masraum 04-12-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 5959428)
"So the equation , in any case, never was poorly written in a strict mathematical sense.
It was written in a way that leaves it prone for incorrect interpretation of the order of operations... The incorrect interpreation is human error, it's not mathematical."

I agree.

Dude! You're killin' me here. Look how these two things are written.

Quote:

Originally Posted by romad (Post 5958683)
solve:

16 ÷ 2[8 – 3(4 – 2)] + 1


Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 5955893)
48÷2(9+3)

They are written exactly the same, but you're arguing that one is solved one way and the other is solved the other way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 5959428)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 5956343)

Wolframalpha is doing the problem two different ways.

If you change it to x 1/2, it changes the result

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1302649618.jpg

masraum 04-12-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romad (Post 5959715)
Distributive property = A(B+C) = AB+AC


Simplifying Using the Distributive Property Lesson -- Algebra.Help


2(9+3) is one term by defintion



Then order of ops

48/ 2(9+3) You must solve the () first

48/(18+6)

48/24 = 2


Bzzzt! Thanks for playing. Read below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krystar (Post 5959772)
distributive property doesn't let u distribute only part of a common factor over the elements.

doing proper distributive, would be
48/2(9+3) = 48/2*9 + 48/2*3


apply distributive rule,
a/b(c+d) = a/b*c + a/b*d

Ding, ding, ding!!!

Thank you, I was about to post that myself.

Part of the problem taken out of context can be dangerous.

You could rewrite the portion of the equation in question as

(48/2)(9+3) which gives 9x24+3x24 which is 12x24 which is 288

same goes for the problem that you suggested.

(16/2)(8-3(4-2))+1
8(8-3(2))+1
8(8-6)+1
8(2)+1
17

trekkor 04-12-2011 04:15 PM

I'm curious how many still think the answer is 2?


KT

Esel Mann 04-12-2011 04:56 PM

If 288 and 17 are wrong, please share with us the respectable reference source which supports your approach!

Excel spreadsheet and the C programming reference I mentioned support the answers being 288 and 17 respectively.

However if these answers are wrong, I'll gladly be the first to admit my error, and graciously thank anyone who shares a reference source which says it is otherwise!

Hodgey 04-12-2011 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 5960062)
I'm curious how many still think the answer is 2?


KT

I do......

masraum 04-12-2011 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodgey (Post 5960192)
I do......

Hahahahahahah

Kudos to you for being willing to admit it

wdfifteen 04-12-2011 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 5960062)
I'm curious how many still think the answer is 2?


KT

Me

wdfifteen 04-12-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirKuhl (Post 5959415)
The fact that these types of threads go on and on for pages demonstrates that something that we hold as the epitome of objectiveness, mathematics, is as open to interpretation as anything.

"Objectiveness?" Is that really a word? It's "objectivity." Sheesh. And don't give me the old argument about "objectiveness" vs "objectivity" being subjective.


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