FBI car tracking device
 

Battle Brews Over FBI’s Warrantless GPS Tracking | Threat Level | Wired.com

Wired also has a tear down of the tracking device

Is anyone surprised. I think the thing to do would be to find a semi in a rest stop to attach the thing to. Send the FBI around the country. That might be fun.

I bet they can track you with your own cell phone. They will be some bored stiff suckers that track me.

they can track you with your cell phone. its been all over the news.

Yea, and with an iPhone you can't take the battery out to really kill it. I guess you could put it in a steel box to keep the signal from getting out.

"The administration (obama's) is seeking to overturn a ruling by a lower court that law enforcement officials must obtain a warrant before using a tracker."

this is because they want to track your car in order to tax by the mile. this would require that EVERYONE have a tracker. its a fun new world we are living in.

And people laugh at me because I never upgraded.

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Unfortunately that is an analog phone. It will not work in this century. ;)

LOL! i remember some twit walking through the mall like she queen of all she beholds, chittering away into her huge fkn phone attached to a cinderblock sized fanny pack.

not about you. of course.

If your doing nothing wrong whats the problem?

It doesn't matter if you are doing something wrong or not. What matters is that the government is engaging in a practice that is counter to the 4th amendment. That affects every citizen of the U.S.

Or a local FedEx/UPS truck.

there isn't one. except this teeny tiny little thing that our country was founded upon is being usurped: the constitution.

I might be doing something wrong. It's possible.:cool:

nope. you aren't.

that is what Judge Kozinski thinks

we'll see what the Supremes think pretty soon

Or you could switch Airplane Mode to ON.

With a warrant I don't see a problem.

However if they are doing this without a warrant that's completely wrong.
What are the trying to achieve?

Oh well, I wasn't using my Civil Liberties anyway

Like Glen I am planning to lull them into a false sense of security by boring them to death.

I sincerely hope so. Life is short.

Hysterical... :D:D:D

if you did find a device, the FBI AND the FedEx Co. would be unhappy if you stuck it on a truck

but you COULD send the device FedEx to somewhere with no legal consequences

I would say that if you found it, you own it. It's not like they stuck it there after asking permission.
Would you leave it there after you found it because you're afraid to mess with it??
Not me, I'd mess with them. Probably get into trouble because of it too, but that's just me.
You can always sell the car with that thing still on it........

I would remove it and leave it in my garage... ;)

I'm not sure why this is even an issue. You'd think they'd need a warrant to use a tracking device like this.
Judging by the size of the battery it looks like the thing is setup to work for months on end.

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mail it somewhere, slowboat, to china. :)

whether they need a warrant to use a tracking device like this is exactly what the Supremes will be deciding

You'd think they could make technology like this a bit smaller by now. That thing is huge.
I would say something the size of a small cell phone should be technically feasible...

Try and have your cell phone constantly transmit a full output. Battery won't last long. I play with this stuff - R/C hobby. Although battery tech is getting better, there are still limitations. Hence the big batt pack.

The hardware I use is smaller than a cell phone.

Absolutely considering what an iPhone can do. EDIT: Yes you'd still need a SUPER battery. (slodave) ^^^

From the breakdown link in the original story.

FBI Vehicle-Tracking Device: The Teardown | Threat Level | Wired.com

Step 8
The module providing the GPS signal processing on this device is a µ-blox GPS-MS1 that's sort of ancient in the realm of modern electronics.
It was released June 29, 1999!
It features an astonishing 0.125 MB of SRAM and 1 MB of flash memory.

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GPS antenna. Ver 4 is even smaller. There are even smaller ones available on the market.
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You mean slow boat back to China.

I'd send it to Pakistan. That would really get them excited... :D:D:D

Or just place it under another vehicle. Leave them in the dark.

The device was found 5 years ago... they're probably loads smaller now.

If you started taking apart, what do you think it would do then? Would it just signal to them a generic error message?

If I found one I would put it inside a "suspicious package" on the FBI's doorstep. That would get plenty of attention and they would feel like morons once they sorted out what it was.

Looks like the 4th Amendment is once again under fire. Apparently, it's okay to once again tap your phone w/o a court order (FISA) like they did under the last administration (beginning 2005), They suspended the practice in 2007. However, in 2009, the Obama administration reinstated it.

This lengthy Wikipedia page explains the status with the govt., AT&T and FISA rules:

NSA warrantless surveillance controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Everyone okay with Big Brother?

Sherwood