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				No windshield + V-twin vibration + 95º = sore and tired. I tried riding my friend's ST1100 while we were out. I don't like the position of the pedals or the narrow handlebars, but I do like the smooth 4 cylinder, the built-in windshield, and the built-in storage. So, is there a such thing as a Cruiser Tourer? Or a small tourer? I'd like a bike with the pedal position and handlebars of my Shadow, and the engine, windshield, and storage of the ST1100. Does such a beast exist? Yes, I know there is a four-cylinder Gold Wing, but that's bigger than I'm looking. 
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			Try a Honda NT700V.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			That's a NEW motorcycle! And to add to the confusion, a Z06 I've been watching for months came up for sale again (owner has been listing it for sale, not getting any takers, taking it off the market, and re-listing it for less for months). 
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 BTW, smooth as can be, I used to ride 1000 miles a day on mine and was not that tired. Having a good (Corbin) seat helps a lot. 
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			I don't really like the cruiser riding position. I like upright, but not laid back. I'd follow Joe's advice and take a look at some BMWs as a counterpoint. In a mid size, something like the F800GS can go anywhere and do anything. Wide bars, upright position, lots of bag options.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Sorry, I can't do a "sport" riding position, even a sport-tourer. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			I need the pedals to be more forward. I made it one block on the ST1100 before I got killer hip cramps. 
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			As a point of style, "pedals" are on bicycles, "footpegs" are on motorcycles.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Try the BMW RT series. Adjustable far more than the human body can conform to ....
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Check out my bike.   
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			I rode mine to Virginia and back. Then went to bike week. The V-twin is rubber mounted so there is only a little vibe at a stoplight. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			I've always liked the R1200S. But if a ST1100 is not comfortable, then he can forget about the RS. Besides the new RR and the R1200S, which of course is no longer made, I'm just not that big a fan of  BMW motorcycles. I'm going on almost 150K on modern BMW's and they just dont do a thing for me. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() I was given this K1300GT for the weekend and put about 700miles on it. Nice bike, but not worth 22K to me and my normal pillion said my bike is more comfortable. The fit and finish is excellant and I thought the ESA suspension worked pretty well. I think the handling of the RT is significantly better, but this is a very fast bike. 
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			I test rode a K1300S and it was stupid fast.  Just insane.  My R12S is fast enough, but I can't stand anything slower.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I'd look at a few of the new Yamahas.  They're 4-cyls and very comfortable.  And they're not stupidly overpriced like the BMWs.   
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			I could never ride a v-twin. I hate them. Noisy, lots of vibration and rattles. I've yet to be on any v-twin bike that even came close to being comfortable. 
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			Have you looked at the Victory? The Victory Vision was rated more comfortable than a Gold Wing by Motorcycle Cruiser mag. Its a love it or hate it look, but they also have the cross roads and cross country based on the vision, very comfy bikes with hard bags. Doesn't hurt to look.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 Stupidly overpriced? Well, quality usually does cost but in the end when you are still riding the same bike years or decades later that has not ever had a hiccup you realize that the cost is cheap by the mile, month or year. Its kinda like that expensive Rolex I bought. Got it in the PX back in the mid 1970's and paid the high price of $275 or so for it. Considering that I wore it all last week and its in great shape, when you figure that its now 35 years old, the price was a bargain. 
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 Also, speaking of comfort, can someone tell me, is that riding position that I see so often, where the rider is outstretched with his feet on highway pegs mounted up on the crash bars even remotely comfy? It looks like all the weight of the rider is on the seatbone. I can't imagine doing more than a couple hundred riding that way. (Back to the real thread) 
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			Hold out for the new six cyl BMW coming shortly...pricey though.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
				
					
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