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CEO confirms Chevy to sell diesel Cruze in U.S.
CEO confirms Chevy to sell diesel Cruze in U.S. - USATODAY.com
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That's cool but what we really need is good TDI 1/2-ton PU trucks, ie. F-150/Ram 1500/Silverado 1500. That is where really significant MPG gains could be had, not to mention awesome trucks.
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I hope they're buying it from another company and reselling it. GM diesels are terrible, amazingly terrible. The caddys I used to work on from the 80's were a horror.
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Differnt animal entirely...the 80's GM diesels were converted gas engines. I actually had two..Blazer and Suburban...got GREAT service out of both of them.
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Ford has that Ecoboost twin turbo V6 for the F150.... substantial towing capacity, and good mileage..
Rode shotgun with a friend to a DE at Lime Rock yesterday, he has a F150 Crew Cab Ecoboost short bed, and was towing a 24' haulmark which was loaded, Moduline cabinets, two set spare wheels tires, a 993 twin turbo race car, bunch of fuel jugs... and assorted other crap... Got 13 MPG on the tow from NYC to Lime Rock.. Not sure how much more economical a small diesel would be in place of that engine... FWIW he told me he gets 23-25MPG unloaded highway.. Really nice truck.. Isuzu makes the diesel engines for the full sized GM pick ups, am sure that Isuzu has a small diesel that would be a fit for the Cruze
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Predictable responses here. GM partnered with Isuzu to details slop the Duramax over a decade ago. The Duramax is now 100% GM. So that's a diesel we know well in the states. But overseas, GM offers tons of diesels that they make themselves. So do lots of other manufacturers, including Ford, Toyota, Nissan, and many others. GM has a proven line of direct-inject turbodiesels that will /can serve duty as long as they can meet US emissions. The motor that they're proposing for the Cruze has been around Europe for awhile.
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Sounds like a good car and infinity times better than a Prius.
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From what I can find on the net (Wiki) the engine is made by GM Korea (Daewoo).
I had a Chevette with an Isuzu power train that was excellent. Chevrolet Cruze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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This is a good thing. I realize some love to hate GM for their countless past sins (I'm a bit that way myself) but you've got to like seeing an American OEM moving forward. Hybrid Volt, diesel Cruze - this is way better than spitting out a suede-paneled Hummer or whatever the former GM would have done.
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The gas Cruze is selling very well, I guess we'll see about the diesel. Even the VW TDIs don't sell many units so it seems like still an uphill slog for diesels in the US.
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I have put 50,000 miles on my VW TDI w/ automatic in the last two years; the car and more importantly the motor has operated flawlessly. I have averaged 37 miles per gallon on mixed use. I hammer this car w my last concern being achieving better mileage. I do not understand the resistance to diesel in the US as they are the only real car used in Europe. I am especially confused when it comes to SUVs. What could be a more straight forward application? It is also interesting that diesel fuel is cheaper than gas in Europe. Problem in the US is the offerings are so sparse. I would love to have an opportunity to purchase an Alfa turbo diesel.......
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Diesel is cheaper than gasoline in Europe due to taxes, which favor diesel.
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I was also under the impression it is cheaper to process diesel into a final product. The taxes certainly favor lower displacement motors.......
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I decided agains a diesel on the Jetta I purchased two years ago because of the increased cost up front....when I did the math, I believe I would need to clock over 190k to see the payback. This is based on Diesel costing more than gas.
I will buy another diesel when they quit charging so much more for the car compared to gas.
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