Foreign students on j-1 protest work conditions here

[89911]

I'm old, married, with kids....but....if I was freshly out of school with no commitments, I would be checking out the J-I women. I saw some pretty stunning women out in Tahoe and Yosemite. Seems like an easy catch, your American, there not? They are getting sent back no matter what. Am I missing something?

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by kach22i

I proved you wrong and that's all I get?

What a jip.

You proved nothing except that you can't carry an argument and so have to change the subject. There is no evidence (let alone allegation) of sexual slavery with regard to the foreign students in Hershey, yet you see some linkage here. Basically, they're kids who are probably getting screwed by the employment agency and/or didn't understand that making $8/hr in the US is only decent money for kids because they usually live with their parents for free and don't pay an employment agency. Sorry for them, but I doubt this was sprung on them as soon as they landed here. They sound like they're going to end up in menial jobs here or at home because they don't think things through or know math very well. Maybe that will drive some into the sex trade. But no one kidnapped them and brought them here and turning tricks was not a condition of their employment with Hershey.

[sammyg2]

The head of the Council for Educational Travel USA, a San Clemente, Calif.-based nonprofit that also helped place students, said their motives weren't entirely pure.

"Somebody has been circulating a letter that they will get several thousand dollars back if they protest and be a part of this movement," CEO Rick Anaya said. "We have not gotten any cooperation from the kids. Somebody is promising them a lot of money in order to participate in this protest."

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[BlueSkyJaunte]

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

I had a long chat with a lovely Moldovan girl who is working in Duck, NC this summer.

And, just to clarify, she is a cashier at one of the many tchotchke stores there.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

There is no evidence (let alone allegation) of sexual slavery with regard to the foreign students in Hershey,.

I just don't understand your low comprehension level, you are an adult, right?

Nowhere did I even come close to saying what you claim, why do you have this need to lie and make stuff up?

I asked everyone to read the two articles I posted, if you read them you would have known they talked about the same student exchange program listed in the title of this thread.

And even worse..................................I ask you to picture your loved ones in a similar situation.

This is not PARF Rick Lee, your usual tactics hold no water here. Clean up your act, time to be an adult.

[bivenator]

Kach, I read them both and came to the same conclusion as Rick. I stated it in the PARf thread with the same links.

Somebody step up and be the tiebreaker or tiemaker.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Clean up your act, time to be an adult.

"Hello, Pot? Um...this is The Kettle. Just calling to inform you of a little detail you might've missed..."

[legion]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

The head of the Council for Educational Travel USA, a San Clemente, Calif.-based nonprofit that also helped place students, said their motives weren't entirely pure.

"Somebody has been circulating a letter that they will get several thousand dollars back if they protest and be a part of this movement," CEO Rick Anaya said. "We have not gotten any cooperation from the kids. Somebody is promising them a lot of money in order to participate in this protest."

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Now we're getting somewhere. Is this just another false flag operation like Project Gunrunner/Operation Fast & Furious? You know, the whole immigration/visa system is broken, so let's abolish it and open the floodgates...

[sailchef]

Trust me, the students aren't making any money this year and along the way the FEES they pay to get here have been inflated, and, the PROMISES that brought them here have been over stated.

This year I have 9 J1 students working for me. Several wait tables outside in the sweltering humidity and one lovely young lady stands on the boardwalk at a hot dog cart selling hot dogs all day long. None of these kids complain and they have never missed a shift. They prefer to work 7 days a week and they do so with great pride. They are the most efficient employees I have. They were taught respect and good work ethics by someone, somewhere.

On the other hand I have had no fewer than 6 local kids take jobs and quit because it’s too hot to work outside or they are too tired to get up in the morning. I called one of them when he was late for work, and he sent me a text saying he was on his way to florida.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by sailchef

Trust me, the students aren't making any money this year and along the way the FEES they pay to get here have been inflated, and, the PROMISES that brought them here have been over stated.

Thank you for adding to the discussion.

The "up to $6,000" must be an high, I found more information, CETUSA only gets $600 of that from I can tell.

Far from home and on their own - Mywesttexas.com: Top Stories

Going through the process
Without hesitation, Falco's mother paid 5,000 reais (nearly $2,200) to World Study for the program. Costs included the round-trip flight, the sponsor and the fees to obtain the J-1 student work visa.

World Study assigned the California-based nonprofit CETUSA to be his sponsor. CETUSA receives $600 to set them up with an employer and to cover the student's medical insurance.

Falco signed the job offer on a document that bore CETUSA's logo. It stated he would work as a cook or cashier for a company named Royal Hospitality Services in Midland; he would be paid $8.50 an hour, 40 hours a week, with the possibility of overtime; furnished housing would be provided by the company at $350 a month, with utilities included (due upon arrival); and he would share a bedroom with two to four people.
But it didn't work out that way.


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And as far as CETUSA being sued in a class action lawsuit by the students, they just might deserve it. They have sued others for trying to help the students, not very nice of them.

Attempt to 'Sue' Child Advocate's Mouth Shut
Court Date Scheduled for Local Child Protection Advocate
Please Help Eradicate Bad Agencies Abusing Student Exchange Programs

Quite a few other articles on the topic here:
News 2009

[bivenator]

So if they unionize these foreign kids, consumer prices go up, owner profits go down and the money leaves the country along with the kids at the end of summer. Can we just get some illegals to work these jobs.

Seriously, I expect somebody in the US legally would take the employment.