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Woodworking experts, can this be repaired?

Ok, had some damage from Irene and I am hoping I can find a place that will do a correct and safe repair of this storm door insert. A branch from a hemlock hit a glancing blow to the window and broke the glass out as well as the wood dividers. How it didn't break the middle one is beyond me. I would settle for repair to original design or thought about taking the 3 over 4 out and putting one piece of safety glass in it's place.

What kind of a woodworking shop would do this kind of work? Any idea what something like this would cost to repair?


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Too bad I didn't rotate the pic but you get the idea.
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Maybe. I know a very talented window guy in Oregon that has made his own mouldings. In my mind, the only difficult part is to match the profile of the moulding. Also, this is cheezy but bondo does great at hiding imperfections in wood. Do you have the broken out pieces?


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PS - I am NOT an expert! There will be much smarter folks than me that answer this.

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Don't have the broken moulding.
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Yes it's repairable, and because it's paint grade and a very small amount of moulding, you could easily use a table saw to rough out what you want and "work" it with a little sand paper and chisel to adjust. If the remaining wood is sound, you could use a "scarf" joint or create a lap joint between the broken sections and the new wood. Good luck
BTW I have no idea what a shop would cost for repair....kind of depends on how hungry they are, it shouldn't take more that an hour....plus glue drying time.

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Yes, it can be fixed. The issue is finding someone who will repair it.

Try going to a builders recycle place and look for an old window with a similar profile. You can cut out the dividers from the donor and epoxy them into your window.
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Yes that is repairable and a DIY project if you have the broken mullions and no rot is present. Simply loosen the (bottom in the photo) style and epoxy thebroken mullions back in place. When the epoxy has set you can reinstall the style.

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It's "stile."

I've done that repair dozens of times. I usually go to a millworks and buy a length of mullion. Yours are pretty thin and today's profile is thicker for better wind load. YOumight get lucky with a piece of "historic" mullion.

I can buy the whole storm sash for about $125.
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Storm door really should be tempered glass these days.
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It's "stile."

I've done that repair dozens of times. I usually go to a millworks and buy a length of mullion. Yours are pretty thin and today's profile is thicker for better wind load. YOumight get lucky with a piece of "historic" mullion.

I can buy the whole storm sash for about $125.
So, I can find the entire insert (shash) for $125? Replacement? That's fine with me if I could find it in the area
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We have a window in worse condition and a neighbor is repairing it for me. He said that's is easy (if you know what you're doing)!
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Go to a small mill shop and try and buy some stile material. It may match but glue or epoxy and you are done. Use a couple of nails of course. If not get out your router, fake the profile and glue with a general epoxy. I find that bondo is not such a good material when it has to deal with mother nature because wood expands and contracts making it a difficult for the bondo to stay put. Abatron epoxy is by far the best I have used to fill gap and shape to a certain detail. Not so much for gluing. I have restored exterior columns with Abatron and it has held up over 10-12 years.

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My shop has been manufacturing sash/doors for 105 yrs (been there for 37). We could not come near Milts price $125 for this but it is relatively common for us to make new inserts for old doors. Screen or glass.
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Call a window shop and price out a new double pane sash. They can make it out of wood, vinyl, GBG, etc.

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