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Rich76_911s 09-23-2011 04:56 AM
first suspension laid down. Jody Shelly gets a 10 game suspension for this hit. I agree with the suspension and think there is nowhere in hockey for this kind of garbage. And I am a Flyers fan!

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Hawkeye's-911T 09-23-2011 09:21 AM
Shelley always has been a "cement-head", IMHO

Cdnone1 09-23-2011 09:28 AM
Interesting article in todays Toronto Star about how this is just a slap on the wrist.
Here's a link if your interested
The Spin

Steve

Hawkeye's-911T 09-23-2011 09:44 AM
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By Cdnone1: Interesting article in todays Toronto Star about how this is just a slap on the wrist.
An also interesting follow-up to this article is one of Sportsnets(?) analysts pointed out Shanahan is trying to provide some "transparency" to the decision making process re: suspensions. I for one am quite curious & will be awaiting with interest to see what sort of suspension will be handed out when/if say, Alexander Ovechkin drills Matt Cooke into the boards.

Cheers
JB

Por_sha911 09-23-2011 10:14 AM
Rich: actually its the 2nd suspension. The first one was Calgary Flames' Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond for the remainder of the preseason and one regular season game for an illegal boarding check on Vancouver Canucks’ forward Matt Clackson. Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond will miss rest of preseason, Flames’ season opener for illegal hit | ProHockeyTalk

Hawk: It will be interesting if there is favoritism with Cindy Crosby, Alex Choke-vechkin, or (Nathan) Horton the Horrible.

Shanahan is putting out a video of each ruling so far. He stated Shelley's criminal past was taken into consideration. Jody Shelley suspended 5 games Video - NHL VideoCenter

There is a certain amount of irony that Shanny is handing out the penalties but, I guess "it takes one to know one". I guess guys like Matt Cooke and Shawn Thornton have a possible future in the NHL HQ when Shanahan retires...

Por_sha911 09-25-2011 03:43 PM
"And the hits keep on coming!"
 
Buffalo Sabres forward Brad Boyes has been suspended for two preseason games for an illegal hit to the head of Toronto Maple Leafs forward Joe Colborne during a preseason game on September 24, National Hockey League Senior Vice President of Player Safety Brendan Shanahan announced today.

Wow. Looks like they are really trying to make a point.

In the meantime, :D
End of 2 periods, BRUINS 5, Habs 1. The B's have 2 shorthanded goals including everyone's favorite in Montreal, Big Zdeno Chara. :D
Yeah, I know its only pre-season but talking smack is great any time...

JJ 911SC 09-25-2011 04:15 PM
Joe

Not making any excuse... (Habs just score but still down at 6-3) but 3 games in 3 night??? Never seen this during the normal season or even the pre-season.

Did split with Ottawa :(:(:(

Lost the double or nothing bet in the last 21 minutes last night :rolleyes:

Oops... 7-3

1990C4S 09-25-2011 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich76_911s (Post 6270477)
first suspension laid down. Jody Shelly gets a 10 game suspension for this hit. I agree with the suspension and think there is nowhere in hockey for this kind of garbage. And I am a Flyers fan!
Five games really, no one counts pre-season as a suspension, no lost pay, just a holiday.. For what? Maybe his fourth suspension? Nothing has changed. Yet.

1990C4S 09-25-2011 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 6266631)
Rule 48 concerning hits to the head:

Notes:
-The words "blindside" and "lateral" have been removed. It no longer matters what direction the hit comes from.
-To paraphrase: if you are stupid enough to put yourself in a vulnerable position just before or during the hit, you get what you deserve.
-The head has to be targeted and the principle point of contact.
-The penalty is a minor instead of major and game misconduct.

Rule 41 concerning boarding:


See Brendan Shanahan (of all people) explain the new rules in videos here: NHL provides video explanations for two hits-related rule changes | ProHockeyTalk

Seems to me that they are doing the right thing by eliminating the ability of players to exploit the old rule but putting themselves in jeopardy and causing an unwarranted penalty. Making the head shot hit a minor surprised me. I guess they felt the old rule was making the NHL too soft.
I believe the intention is the opposite, the old rule was too lenient. Time will tell. No NHL player (no player anywhere) sets himself up to take a potentially career ending hit on purpose.

Was the hit on Mark Savard clean? Didn't he leave himself vulnerable?

What is wrong with Brendan Shanahan? He was a tough clean player....if more players lived up to his code of on-ice behaviour the league would be a lot cleaner. Who better? A lawyer like Gary Bettman?

1990C4S 09-25-2011 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Roosterrusek (Post 6266937)
Well what I want to know is what will happen like when Crosby hurt himself. HE turned into Steckel who is a good 8 inches taller than Crosby. Crosby runs INTO Steckel and boom concussion.

How does one figure in the height differences?
There is a reason Steckel never turned to see what hit him. I believe he knew exactly what he did, and who he hit.

Height difference is going to be the main issue. Tall players can't safely hit short players any more. Not with a shoulder anyhow.

Por_sha911 09-26-2011 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 6274823)
I believe the intention is the opposite, the old rule was too lenient. Time will tell. No NHL player (no player anywhere) sets himself up to take a potentially career ending hit on purpose.

What is wrong with Brendan Shanahan? Who better? A lawyer like Gary Bettman?
The old rule was a 5 min major and a game misconduct. Its not a minor. That seems more lenient but maybe they did that so the refs could hand them out more frequently.
Shanny was brutal at times. "Who better?" Your signature says who you love... :rolleyes: (Really, its time to change that thing before we start to believe it).

Por_sha911 09-27-2011 07:41 AM
Wow Shanny is more punishing with the suspensions than he ever was with the checking:
Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman James Wisniewski received the harshest punishment yet. Out for the rest of pre-season and the 1st 8 games of the regular season!

In other news,
Karma in action: Aaron Rome breaks his hand on the same day that Nathan Horton returns to the ice for the first time in 3 months after suffering a concussion from a brutal hit by Rome in game 3 of the Stanley Cup finals.

Vonzipper 09-27-2011 08:13 AM
When did the NHL decide the the power play is exciting to watch? I would rather see quality 5 on 5 play. the players are coached to turn and take the hit to draw the penalty, to much emphasis on the man advantage, no way to fix that just need to up scoring 5 on 5, when was the last time you heard someone say "I came to watch the power play"

Por_sha911 09-27-2011 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vonzipper (Post 6277820)
when was the last time you heard someone say "I came to watch the power play"
In Boston? Oh about 2 years ago! :(

flatbutt 09-27-2011 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cdnone1 (Post 6269100)
Agreed.
My old chest protector, shoulder pads and elbow pads don't have a lick of plastic on them! Now they look like flax jackets and football gear

Steve
My old shoulder padding was just that....thick felt.

Anybody else here remember playing pond hockey with newspaper stuffed up your pant legs?

Por_sha911 09-28-2011 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 6278860)
Anybody else here remember playing pond hockey with newspaper stuffed up your pant legs?
Oh yeah! No helmet or hockey gloves either. The hot setup was a taped stick with a curved blade. No one even had jerseys back then.

Cdnone1 09-28-2011 08:52 AM
The worst injury I suffered as a kid was when my stick stuck in a crack in the ice on a pond. It stopped dead while I was at full speed and speared me right in the &*%(&^#%$&.
They carried me home bleeding and I refused to let my Mom look at my injury. Tough place to get stitches!
Took weeks to heal and itched like crazy towards the end

Steve

Hawkeye's-911T 09-28-2011 10:03 AM
Quote:
Posted by Por_sha911: Oh yeah! No helmet or....
& you weren't allowed to 'raise' the puck with your wrister & slapshots were banned completely. Pond hockey was pretty much all fun. Regettably, the age of innocence has all but past.

Cheers
JB

Cdnone1 09-28-2011 10:29 AM
We used to call it "shinny hockey" because you only protected your shins. No raising the puck

Steve

1990C4S 09-28-2011 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye's-911T (Post 6280186)
Regettably, the age of innocence has all but past.

Cheers
JB
Not here. I still play. Without a helmet.


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