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tonypeoni 10-06-2011 04:26 PM

Why did porsche have to build the Cayenne?
 
I had not been to a club meeting in 7 years. I dont remember ever seeing a cayenne there. Thats probably the problem.. I have to say I will not attend again. No shortage of fake 30s coach purse carrying types around. I could not have imagined what would have happen if a guy showed up in a rusted 914. Yes this a rant. Porsche club has lost its way. Porsche in general. Too many Fakes not enough car people. I understand in the mall parking lot this is going to happen. Not at a Porsche club function. This is not a anti sex in the city, mid thirties , professional female rant. This is a what the heck does it mean to be in the Porsche club rant. I think its time for a classic Porsche club. No fakes please. And if your wondering my 28 year old sister drives a Cayenne :(

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sc_rufctr 10-06-2011 04:38 PM

Porsche built the Cayenne to make money... Specifically in the American market which has always been very important to Porsche.

Our local Ferrari club is pretty much split between the classic cars and the new. It's not a nice "culture" because of the snobbery and attitude.
Our Porsche club on the other hand welcomes all. Including early 924, 944, 928 and the latest water cooled cars.

I don't particularly like the Cayenne either but they shouldn't be excluded from a club IMO.
With the rising cost of gasoline and peoples attitude I think the Cayenne days are numbered anyway.

speeder 10-06-2011 04:39 PM

What did you do, google young woman+Porsche Cayenne?

Hard-Deck 10-06-2011 04:39 PM

Which one is your Sister?

tonypeoni 10-06-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 6296388)
What did you do, google young woman+Porsche Cayenne?

Actually just Google Girl + Porsche. :D

VaSteve 10-06-2011 04:42 PM

Ho hum another rant.

This looks fun.....will you be there or still *****in' on PPOT?

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exc911ence 10-06-2011 05:08 PM

Porsche had to build the Cayenne to stay independent.

Hmm.... they're no longer independent. Time to axe the Cayenne! :D

Hugo930 10-06-2011 05:21 PM

Cute girls. My wife had a CS for a few years. Nothing wrong with them.

HardDrive 10-06-2011 05:23 PM

What the hell are you complaining about man? I'd rather look at those gals as opposed to some crusty sob griping about the 'water coolers'.

sc_rufctr 10-06-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 6296476)
What hell are you complaining about man? I'd rather look at those gals as opposed to some crusty sob griping about the 'water coolers'.

lols... Excellent! :D:D:D

speeder 10-06-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 6296476)
What the hell are you complaining about man? I'd rather look at those gals as opposed to some crusty sob griping about the 'water coolers'.

Ouch. :cool:

gtc 10-06-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 6296476)
What the hell are you complaining about man? I'd rather look at those gals as opposed to some crusty sob griping about the 'water coolers'.

He probably lost to one of them in an autocross.

speeder 10-06-2011 05:26 PM

That first one need a spanking.

bivenator 10-06-2011 05:27 PM

Got to ride in a new Cayenne Turbo today. Amazingly fast in a straight line, comfort, interior was tasteful, its a very nice ride. Hope your sister wasn't the blond next to the maroon in the above picture because I just violated her mentally.

I like the old Porsche club idea, I don't go to mine local as there isn't much interest in older cars.

targa911S 10-06-2011 05:32 PM

I was part of a focus group with Porsche before it came out. Basically they wanted to fill the hole in the demographics of their buyers to keep them through their mid 30's to late 40's. They were losing too much market share to the SUV market. If ya can't lick em join em I guess. We did beg them for a 914 replacement. They alluded to one coming at the time. Two years later they introduced the B car. We told them we didn't want the SUV. They said it's simple build an SUV or we won't be able to stay the company we are and may have to sell shares to another car company. We were like 'ok build an SUV.

Christien 10-06-2011 05:33 PM

Porsche has always been kept in business by poseurs, fakes, status-seekers, and general dildos and losers. Who was buying the 911s brand new in the 80s? Rich lawyers who wanted to look flashy. The Cayenne is just the modern equivalent of that. I don't like it, but then, I don't like SUVs at all. If I had to have an SUV, it might be a Cayenne, but I would look at it the same way I do my dishwasher - an appliance that's needed.

If the Cayenne is needed to keep Porsche in business, and keep being able to make other kinds of cars that I'm going to want to drive when they're 30 years old, I say have at it.

Christien 10-06-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 6296494)
Hope your sister wasn't the blond next to the maroon in the above picture because I just violated her mentally.

Quote of the year contender!!!! :)

VaSteve 10-06-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Christien (Post 6296513)
Porsche has always been kept in business by poseurs, fakes, status-seekers, and general dildos and losers. .

I'm sure that's in the marketing files somewhere.

tonypeoni 10-06-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christien (Post 6296513)
Porsche has always been kept in business by poseurs, fakes, status-seekers, and general dildos and losers. Who was buying the 911s brand new in the 80s? Rich lawyers who wanted to look flashy. The Cayenne is just the modern equivalent of that. I don't like it, but then, I don't like SUVs at all. If I had to have an SUV, it might be a Cayenne, but I would look at it the same way I do my dishwasher - an appliance that's needed.

If the Cayenne is needed to keep Porsche in business, and keep being able to make other kinds of cars that I'm going to want to drive when they're 30 years old, I say have at it.

No way Volkswagen needs the Cayenne. They have the Touareg. On the bright side the 2013 Cayenne and Touareg will feature a unique and trend setting feature. The Tampax dispenser.

idontknow 10-06-2011 05:48 PM

Why? So they could make money to finance the RS spyder.

wdfifteen 10-06-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 6296489)
That first one need a spanking.

+1
I was thinking the same thing.

widgeon13 10-07-2011 02:29 AM

PCA = wine and cheese!

Jim Richards 10-07-2011 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 6296489)
That first one need a spanking.

+1, and that second one...mmmm.

The Cayenne isn't too bad, for a station wagon.

GH85Carrera 10-07-2011 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tonypeoni (Post 6296371)
I had not been to a club meeting in 7 years. I dont remember ever seeing a cayenne there. Thats probably the problem.. I have to say I will not attend again. No shortage of fake 30s coach purse carrying types around. I could not have imagined what would have happen if a guy showed up in a rusted 914. Yes this a rant. Porsche club has lost its way. Porsche in general. Too many Fakes not enough car people. I understand in the mall parking lot this is going to happen. Not at a Porsche club function. This is not a anti sex in the city, mid thirties , professional female rant. This is a what the heck does it mean to be in the Porsche club rant. I think its time for a classic Porsche club. No fakes please. And if your wondering my 28 year old sister drives a Cayenne :(

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In our region we have an autocross every month, all year long. One kid has started hanging out that drives a beat up 914. He will turn 18 real soon an he can start driving at the autocross. He was welcome with open arrms. I hope he comes to our charity car show in a week.

We have several members with new 911s and few of them actually ever autocross. I drove a 914 for years. I never felt excluded. Maybe it is just the part of the country you live in.

We have not had a wine & chese party in our region in over 25 years.

Christien 10-07-2011 04:58 AM

There does seem to be a lot of variations in club experience in different regions. Our local chapter (upper Canada region) seems to be an even split between enthusiasts and wine and cheese folks. The track days are always booked solid, and very few of those folks seem to show up to the socials. And vice-versa.

Dottore 10-07-2011 05:10 AM

The Cayenne Turbo is truly fugly, but it will put a grin on your face all day long. Awesome machine. Selling like hot cakes in Russia and China.

Porsche-O-Phile 10-07-2011 05:12 AM

Porsche built the 944 to make money and save the company too. It worked. Deal with it. The PCA chapters I've had contact with are/were pretty snooty towards old 944 owners too. Probably to anyone not a recent-model 911 owner without a bar card or current AMA membership.

I dislike SUVs in general but the Cayenne is at least a well-made and impressive one. If I had to have an SUV I'd seriously consider one.

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VaSteve 10-07-2011 05:59 AM

I never get this.

Do you all actually attend events and participate? Many of these folks with new cars used to have the old cars you have now. Hell we have wine and cheese after the track is cold.

The club is what YOU make of it.

jcommin 10-07-2011 06:34 AM

My local Porsche dealer has (2) free car clinics a year. Lot of eye candy at those events.

kaisen 10-07-2011 07:11 AM

I autocrossed a Cayenne GTS and it performed remarkably well.....

It was just for fun (not timed), but it didn't feel slow at all. I was actually pretty impressed.

rcooled 10-07-2011 07:21 AM

We just need to look to ourselves to see why Porsche (and most every other manufacturer) feels it necessary to build SUVs. The plain fact is that far too many Americans like to drive around in super-sized vehicles. In many cases, it's not even an issue of "need"...it's an issue of "want". Even with gas prices hovering in the $4.00/gal range, people are still buying up big SUVs and full-size p/u trucks like crazy. As long as so many people in the lucrative American market want to be truck drivers, manufacturers will continue to flood the market with the type of vehicles they want. If we didn't keep buying them, SUVs would disappear in short order.

bmcuscgr94 10-07-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 6297281)
I never get this.

Do you all actually attend events and participate? Many of these folks with new cars used to have the old cars you have now. Hell we have wine and cheese after the track is cold.

The club is what YOU make of it.

I agree.

Our club has something for everyone. Wife loves the wine tasting tour ones, while the sons (1, 2, and3) love the backroads rallys and runs that end up with bbq steaks at some old ranch barn. When I first joined my PCA region and made a suggestion, I ended up planning an event. Did it the way I wanted and got a dozen ohter members to come along.
We've got a "tour" coming up and I'm teaming up with a friend with a 968 to caravan to the tour start point and make a fun run out of it. right now we've got a boxster and a 993 going and hoping for another friend with a 914-6. As long as it says Porsche on it we're good (obviously I'm not a purist).:)

fintstone 10-07-2011 07:35 AM

Anyone who trashes the Cayenne Turbo...probably has not driven one. It has pretty remarkable performance, is agressively styled, and is utiltarian in ways a 911 could never be. It is the perfect compliment to the stable of a older 911 owner as it is a great vehicle for the winter and is a great tow vehicle. It has a huge back seat with amazing leg room where adults can actually sit comfortably. It has quite pleasing lines and an agressive stance (Compared to other SUVs, not 930s) reminicient of other Porsches. The turbo's acceleration will slam you back in the seat and the Big Reds will stop the huge beast on a dime. It also brings some new blood into the 911 world...What more could you want. I was not as impressed with the normally aspirated versions.

id10t 10-07-2011 11:16 AM

It is reasons like this that the 356 Registry and similar (912, 911s, etc) exist.

red-beard 10-07-2011 12:05 PM

The 1st one looks like my ex-wife! I think I'd prefer to spank the third one...

chocolatelab 10-07-2011 02:20 PM

Judi has one and I love driving it. Great for date night.

Jrboulder 10-07-2011 03:23 PM

"What's worth doing is worth doing for money."

944Larry 10-07-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 6298011)
The 1st one looks like my ex-wife! I think I'd prefer to spank the third one...

I think I prefer being spanked by all 3!;)

syncroid 10-07-2011 05:49 PM

Quote:

Why did Porsche have to build the Cayenne?
To give people like me job security. :D
A lot of our female customers like/love their Cayennes. For those of you that have not driven one, make no mistake! These "trucks" handle quite well. You wouldn't think so just looking at them until you have a chance to push it through some twistys. The turbos go like stink on poo. Did I mention that road tests are one of the favorite bennys of my job?


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