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manbridge 74 11-15-2011 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 6370899)
So I ask you boyz again; What is worth more to Joe Paterno than a whole lifetime of building a legacy? What could possibly have compelled Joseph Vincent Paterno to cast his vision away from this specter of evil and to silence the famous Paterno call to honor, sacrifice and righteousness?
Not that difficult to deduce really. The entire university system would say that personal morality is just a tired old convention to be cast to the wayside.

IE; What happens off the field shouldn't matter. Just don't get caught.

This attitude will come back to haunt all coaches. Especially ones who won't investigate one of their own caught up in a pedo accusation.

nikita76 11-15-2011 01:49 PM
I'm sitting here watching HLN with my wife while their disecting the Bob Costas interview last Night on Brian Williams Rock Center. This is what just hit me/us...

Mike McQuery as it turns out is a hometown kid. Grew up not far from Penn State, Sandusky has known him since he was a kid, Sandusky knows the family and has been friends with his dad for years. McQuery worked his way up through the system of the Penn State football program. Quaterback, manager, assistant coach. A McQuery's email that has been discovered includes a fairly cryptic message..."the whole truth hasn't come out yet"

Is it possible however horrible this has been...McQuery walked in on Sandusky in the shower and flashed backed to an incident between HIM and Sandusky!

Isn't also possible that the reason that he is being "protected/spared" by the DA's office and Penn State is because he has ALREADY come forward as a victim.

Something to think about....
ND

M.D. Holloway 11-15-2011 01:52 PM
I would say that is very possible...

Buckterrier 11-15-2011 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 6371337)
Here's a question/statement...
We ( football fans ) have been told for years Joe is mentally sound.

"He's the best coach ever. A real specimen with regards to his mental state. He's brilliant, sharp as a needle, walks to work every day. Don't touch his age!"

I'm just waiting for those supporters to say "Hey, Joe's 84 yrs old. Give the guy a break. He had a senior moment and can't be held responsible for his lack of action."

What a complete loser. He's now one the biggest jokes to set foot on a football field.
Tressell was roasted because he sat on knowledge of his players getting free stuff.
Joe should be burned in effigy. No question. I say again, look at how he reacted to the news the last 2 nights of his career. Standing in front of his house, smiling, fist raised, leading chants/cheers.

And where was Sandusky's wife when he was downstairs, in a basement bedroom, having his way with those poor boys.

This is just getting started. It's going to get worse and worse.

McQueary? A cowardly, shallow, self-serving example of a male. He's lost the right to be called a man. Fire him, now. If there were a way to charge him with a crime, he should be. And his career is over, too. Would you hire him, knowing what we know?

Yeah, yeah, due process.

Answer this, what if you walked into that situation? I know what I would have done. At minimum, I would stop it, call the police and campus police. If Sandusky resisted, I'd rest easy in a jail cell knowing I splattered that guy's brains all over the shower.
Speaking of shower, would you want to bathe in that room ever again? It should be gutted and relocated. And Joe Pa-thetic should pay to have it done.
What an asshat.

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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 6372053)
And Sandusky walks without bail from a Judge who was on the doner list to the Second Mile...you can't make this shyt up. The whole thing was more dirty laundry than occupy Wall street!
$100,000.00 is without bail? Facts my good man, facts please.

David 11-15-2011 03:05 PM
Now McQueary is saying he did stop it, from the article:

McQueary’s actions also have been scrutinized, with some suggesting he didn’t do enough after witnessing child sex-abuse.

McQueary told a friend from Penn State that he stopped the alleged assault and went to the police about it. The friend made an email from McQueary available to The Associated Press on Tuesday on the condition of anonymity.


Joe Paterno coached at Penn State for 64 seasons.

(US Presswire)
In the email dated Nov. 8 from McQueary’s Penn State account, the former Nittany Lions quarterback wrote: “I did stop it, not physically … but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room… I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police….no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds…trust me.”

Added McQueary: “Do with this what you want…but I am getting hammered for handling this the right way…or what I thought at the time was right…I had to make tough impacting quick decisions.”

Emails to McQueary from AP were not immediately answered.


Sandusky TV interview could haunt him at trial - College Football - Rivals.com

stomachmonkey 11-15-2011 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 6372914)


$100,000.00 is without bail? Facts my good man, facts please.
I heard it reported as he did not put up $100,000 but is subject to paying the $100,000 if he does not show for scheduled appearance.

"District Judge Leslie Dutchcot released Sandusky on $100,000 bail this morning, a price that surprised prosecutors. The bail conditions required Sandusky to merely sign a paper and walk out, stating if he fails to show up in the future, he would have to pay $100,000."

Buckterrier 11-15-2011 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6373043)
I heard it reported as he did not put up $100,000 but is subject to paying the $100,000 if he does not show for scheduled appearance.

"District Judge Leslie Dutchcot released Sandusky on $100,000 bail this morning, a price that surprised prosecutors. The bail conditions required Sandusky to merely sign a paper and walk out, stating if he fails to show up in the future, he would have to pay $100,000."
Thanks for the correction, yes I heard that also.

stomachmonkey 11-15-2011 03:27 PM
Don't know why they call it bail, sounds like ROR to me, unless ROR is considered bail?

911pcars 11-15-2011 04:53 PM
Sad, disgusted, angry. It's been said and I agree.

Director, Barry Levinson made this film, "Sleepers" (1996), a story about 4 friends who were sexually abused as kids. Basically a revenge movie, but the script provides plenty of material to feel the full impact of their situation at the hands of sexual predators.

'Sleepers' Debate Renewed: How True Is a 'True Story'? - New York Times

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BTW, it's a good film.

Sherwood

Macroni 11-16-2011 06:55 AM
No longer shocked now bored.

willtel 11-16-2011 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by szyzygy (Post 6364555)
Athletics are a joke, too. I've had people explain to me before why they are good for a university, but I don't buy it.
Nothing more than school children playing with balls. I can't believe how many adults get wrapped up in it.

JCF 11-16-2011 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 6374089)
No longer shocked now bored.
HAHAHA!!!

Don't know why - but that makes me feel a little better - just life I guess - after all.

Thanks Luke

pwd72s 11-16-2011 10:37 AM
Yep, just life. Guess we need the bad stuff to make us appreciate the good stuff? Alas, the mainstream press seldom mentions the good stuff.

Last night's local TV said Paterno has a $500,000 per year pension with full medical bennies. Oh well, at his age he shouldn't be collecting it long.

BlueSkyJaunte 11-16-2011 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 6372914)
What an asshat.
So, you're a supporter of accomplices to child rape. Noted for future reference.

DonDavis 11-16-2011 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 6372914)
What an asshat.
Wait, he was calling me the asshat? Let's see if that's what he meant.

mossguy 11-16-2011 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 6374618)
So, you're a supporter of accomplices to child rape. Noted for future reference.
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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 6374651)
Wait, he was calling me the asshat? Let's see if that's what he meant.
There were several ambiguous statements in some of the preceding posts. I also am confused as to who means what about whom.

Joe Bob 11-16-2011 12:20 PM
News flash....

Matt Millen breaks down and cries......

Penn State Scandal: Matt Millen Cries Discussing Joe Paterno, Jerry Sandusky Investigation (VIDEO)

CurtEgerer 11-16-2011 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 6374820)
The SOB never cried when he took the Detroit Lions to 0-15! :cool:

BlueSkyJaunte 11-16-2011 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 6374651)
Wait, he was calling me the asshat? Let's see if that's what he meant.
I do believe he was. Look at his previous posts in this thread. He's just another mouth-breathing apologist for the child-rapist(s) employed by what would be just another 2nd-tier academic institution if it were not for the sudden media interest in the perverted filth on the payroll.

M.D. Holloway 11-16-2011 06:39 PM
Is it possible that this is much larger than figuered? A sex ring that even Joe Pa is part of? This is bigger than just Football.


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