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Crowbob 11-16-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 6363385)
Yes, McLovin. I am serious, I am playing Devil's advocate, conducting a social experiment and yes, some other thing.

It seems to me Joe would have gone directly to the police pecisely to protect Penn State and his legacy.

It seems to me a person, such as what Joe is portrayed to have been, would put the welfare of children above the welfare of a close personal pervert friend and the reputation of Penn State and his own legacy.

It further seems to me that a person, such as what Joe Paterno is portrayed to have been, would put the welfare of young troubled boys entrusted to the care of a close personal pervert friend wha was using the Penn State facilities for over a decade over the reputation of Penn State and his own legacy.

It seems to me a person, such as what Joe Paterno is portrayed to have been, would put the welfare of numerous, innocent, troubled young boys entrusted to the care of a close personal pervert friend using the Penn State facilities for over a decade to ensnare more innocent young troubled boys ahead of the reputation of Penn State and his own legacy.

Or, Joe Paterno is not what he is alleged to have been.

Not even close.

Hey, Lubey. I think you're on to somethng...

stomachmonkey 11-16-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 6375593)
Is it possible that this is much larger than figuered? A sex ring that even Joe Pa is part of? This is bigger than just Football.

Saw a report about a Second Mile summer camp.

They rented the camp ground for 4 weeks per summer for a couple of years.

Owner of the campground claims SM requested the curtains be removed from the shower stalls and there were several "activities" that involved cross dressing.

widgeon13 11-17-2011 06:55 AM

I'm wondering if McQueary and Sandusky don't have a few things in common other than football...............








Light tight ends!:D

M.D. Holloway 11-17-2011 07:01 AM

I bet when you turn up the lights on this thing you are gonna see some stuff the public won't be able to stomach. This is gonna get pretty darn creepy IMO...

widgeon13 11-17-2011 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 6376334)
I bet when you turn up the lights on this thing you are gonna see some stuff the public won't be able to stomach. This is gonna get pretty darn creepy IMO...

Couldn't agree more. It already is pretty creepy. No one is going to come out of this looking good, no one.

911pcars 11-17-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 6376324)
I'm wondering if McQueary and Sandusky don't have a few things in common other than football...............

Light tight ends!:D

Hmmm. Based on ...?

Sherwood

artplumber 11-17-2011 10:35 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There sure seems like a lot of prejudgement here of many folks, some of which must yet be seen to be true or not. The latest McQuery claim of stopping the act and informing the police (if true - although now the police departments suggest it is not) is but one of the examples of a leap to judgement of inadequate response by posters here.

For now, this: "No one knows what the mindset was at Penn State that allowed Jerry Sandusky to exist all these years, but protecting the pristine brand of Joe “Difference Maker” Paterno is certainly a possibility." from It’s time to stop deifying college coaches - College Football - Rivals.com is the most accurate assessment of the known facts.

M.D. Holloway 11-17-2011 10:42 AM

I get the whole due process and fair trial and what not. Ya ya ya ...

The whole 'mind-set' argument is just good fodder for the defense. Frankly I think it is bullshyt. Of course we all know what we would do in a situation that required action. The fact that someone doesn't do what we all know to be the right thing suggests that they are hiding something or have a vested interest in the outcome.

That technique is used to provide a sliver of doubt so that you can get an acquittal. Its not pre-judgment it is judgment. Check your gut on this. The chances of this guy being clean and that Sandusky is innocent don't feel right for a reason. The gut is right more than it is wrong.

artplumber 11-17-2011 10:49 AM

Mike,
Somebody, maybe many somebodies are to blame. We just don't know who did what. And frankly it seems to me, it is just as likely that JoePa handed this off because he didn't know what to do with accusing his neighbor and longtime assistant, as it is that he was trying to protect himself/legacy. Let's face it, the guy is old and may not have much more together than a game plan with the same 20 plays from 20yrs ago....

VaSteve 11-17-2011 01:56 PM

Was discussing this at work.....what brought this case out of the dead all of the sudden? I heard it was a post on a forum like this....anyone know?

madmmac 11-17-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 6377152)
Was discussing this at work.....what brought this case out of the dead all of the sudden? I heard it was a post on a forum like this....anyone know?

Sandusky was a volunteer football coach at Central Mountain High School when he was reported by the school in 2009 when a boy reported to the Principal that Sandusky was assaulting him. The kid first met him through the Second Mile.

widgeon13 11-18-2011 03:08 AM

This type of thing was bound to happen.

Bernie Fine Scandal: Syracuse Coach Placed on Leave Amid Child Molestation Accusations - ABC News

drcoastline 11-18-2011 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 6378210)

I saw this last night. They are all going to come out now.

DonDavis 11-18-2011 07:29 AM

As many have said, this will get much worse as the story unfolds. Sandusky could be in the same conversation as Dahmer and Gacey. But the thing is, those 2 whackos essentially worked alone. Sandusky had his own "support team" from Paterno on down. I'm not saying they knew the depth of his psychosis. but they certainly ( unknowingly and unwillingly ) facilitated his actions for decades. He pulled the wool over their eyes and pulled it well. However, investigators and PSU staff knew enough to intervene many years ago. They didn't. Knee jerk presumptions are rampant. ( yes, I know the definition of irony )

Sandusky admitted to Costas on national tv, lawyer in attendance, that he showered with young boys. Also that his genitals touched them. Not a presumption there, just repeating what he said.

If that makes me an asshat, so be it.

BlueSkyJaunte 11-18-2011 08:42 AM

You're not an asshat, Don. You're just prioritizing silly things like ethics, morality, and upstanding behavior ahead of rooting for a particular football team. Clearly something is wrong with you.

M.D. Holloway 11-18-2011 08:45 AM

There not even that great a team/prgram or school! I mean if it was Notre Dame or A&M then that would be a different story...

Joe Bob 11-18-2011 08:49 AM

They are or they're.....

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BeyGon 11-18-2011 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 6378788)
There not even that great a team/prgram or school! I mean if it was Notre Dame or A&M then that would be a different story...

If it was USC the hate would fill the room.

widgeon13 11-18-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 6378788)
There not even that great a team/prgram or school! I mean if it was Notre Dame or A&M then that would be a different story...

yeah, if it was Notre Dame it would like keeping it all in the family.

DonDavis 12-08-2011 06:43 AM

Sandusky finally re-arrested and in jail with a 250k bail.
He's inmate 11-1709 and was wearing a Penn State jacket as he was taken in.
More than 50 charges including six 1st degree felonies.


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