lets talk ps3 steering wheels.....
 

for christmas this year i'm going to build a seat/steering setup for my ps3.....
the only game i really play is F1 2010 and will be picking up the new F1 2011.....
i play the occasional gran turismo 5 to turn laps at the ring and lemans....

so far i'm leaning towards the logitech g27.....

Logitech - G27 Racing Wheel

but.....then i came across this.....actual ferrari style f1 wheel with many many customizable features.....this thing really is the cats meow, you can get the wheel itself to add-on to the t500rs setup.....but this is WAY out of budget for me.....unless i can find my magic hat.....

Thrustmaster - Ferrari F1 Wheel Integral T500 - Includes the Ferrari F1 Racing Wheel and the T500 RS Racing Wheel base & foot pedals

not going to buy a prefabbed seat setup as i want to build my own......

what are you guys using? any other setups out there worth looking into?

My wife bought this

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/wheels/devices/4172

for me along with GT5 last Christmas, she became a PS3 widow for a few months. I've had no complaints, it doesnt have a clutch pedal, that's really the only thing that I see is missing. You have all the same functionality, just slightly different layout - no paddles, use the buttons on the back instead. I don't know how much more I'd get out of the higher end models, including the Ferrari, although it is friggin cool.

One of the other members here - Equality7251 built one from an old racing seat and a weight bench. I'm still looking for both to build my own.

nice.....i don't really want the clutch pedal, but it isn't an option for the g27....was thinking of turning it into a dead pedal. for the f1 game the ferrari wheel would be perfect, but way to much cash.........i like the paddle shifters.......how does the force feedback feel on yours? i know that your wheel and the g27 have the same drive system for the ff. i need to make my seat setup where it can be stored easily as i have a 1 bd apartment and a wife lol

Just got a G27 this week. I do not have much time with it yet and need to dial in the feel, but so far it rocks. The clutch/shifter is just plain cool when playing GT legends.

anyone else using one of these?
the designer/engineer seems to know what he's doing.

GranStand.com

Bill K

I've only played on a couple other wheels, but I frankly like this one the best - maybe just used to it. The FF is pretty slick, it's good about pretyt good about giving you a simulated sense of where you are with the car like when you hit a turtle, and a good representative feel of how much effort you need to throw a car around or thread it thru a needle. The nice thing about the games is that you can adjust a bunch of the variables to change the feel to extremes, you can feel like your driving on a razors edge, or slop it all over the place depending on your preferance.

nice....i like the fine tuning aspect......

I have a Logitech G25 and it has served me well for the last 2 years. It is definately an advantage having a clutch for standing starts races. here is my setup that I built.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321891954.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321891968.jpg

The G27 would be a great wheel. The force feedback is good, the paddles are stout, nice leather on the wheel, and the peddles are good.
You might check out the Fanatec stuff, it's a little more pricey but nice.

I have the G27 and a PlaySeat rig. It's great except the seat does not adjust to fit smaller kids if that is of any concern.

This is the Granstand that I referenced in the above link.
Reasonably priced considering all that it can do.
You can't get more adjustable than this:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321968227.jpg

i love the slider type rails.......i think i could fab up something similar...thanks for the pic....

What did that last rig cost to build?

I need to do something similar to that. I have the leather seats out of my 944 I can use for a seat...

I have the newer version PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS wheel from the german company Fanatec and love it. Trust me - you won't believe how superb virtual racing gets when you step up in wheels. You can use the stock paddle shifters or add the manual gate. I plugged in the Logitech G25 triple pedals and they work perfect. The company sells an adapter... how great is that?! The Fanatec pedals are amazing but more than I wanted to spend.

Licensed by Porsche. Excellent variables and control set-up. Alcantara suede and the larger diameter feels right. Big feedback motors seem rugged enough to take the beating if you want to maximize the real feel.

Most pleased and is also compatible for the PC. Shop smartly online and the same package can be had for around $200. I like it so much, I'm shopping for another just for guest use.
http://www.fanatec.de/
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For seating, most sim units look ergo wrong and feel wrong. You need to sit low, pedals higher up, monitor correctly skewed. Build your own is the way to go. For portable sake and league meets, I picked up a slightly used AB roller exercise seat and modified it. The whole thing folds up but is far sturdier than many newer off the shelf seat systems. The pedals are adjustable and you can get them up high enough. Another seat I have was a fluke on buying. Its a kicker game seat with a built-in subwoofer that provides vibration sync to game feel. Surprisingly better quality material and controls. A close-out Target special in the box $265.00 marked down to $75.00. Kind of neat but prefer the AB roller modded seat.

the fanatec stuff loks nice, i really like the porsche wheels.....seeing they are really meant for the xbox do they adapt fine for the ps3? more concerened about programming buttons for F1 as the 2011 game has drs and kers etc.....

ok just looked at the specs for the Porsche 911 GT3 RS V2 CSR Edition.....nice.....
gonna take a long hard look at it......

my thoughs on the mount is to use one for those game type seats like the kicker....found a decent one at target for about $20.....pretty comfortable, can lay back for f1..

i think this is the setup........


Fanatec Gameshop

The strut stuff in bkreigsr's post looks like 80-20 stuff (for those DIY'ers out there):

80/20® Inc. - The Industrial Erector Set®

awesome.......just spent about an hour going through the 80/20 catalog.......exactly what i want to use......thanks !!!

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so the csr elite pedal set uses load cells for the brake pedal......makes sense and is what i want.....
the g27 doesnt seem to have that feature.....am i right?

just got the new autoweek, nice little writeup on the fanatec pedals and wheel.....I'm digging their setups.....
working on the framing parts list from 80/20........

You know, I never thought of the 80/20 parts for that...maybe I dont need the seat after all.

Let me know what you come up with from the 80/20 setup.

there are a couple local industrial surplus suppliers I'm going to check with before ordering anything.
id like to use the 80/20 stuff as its already got a finished look....
there are a few lay back gaming seats which for the bill and are cheap........my goal is to be able to remove the wheel/pedals and slid it under my entertainment center........so will have to design the uprights to fold flat...shouldn't be to difficult, just want the end result to be rock solid...

80/20 also has a ebay store. I checked this option out before I made my sim rig.

I'm sold on those adjustable CSR pedals and now on my wish list. I see they are compatible with the x-box but not sure exactly which Fanatec wheels will go with the x-box.

When I acquired the GT3 RS wheel it only mentioned it for the PS3 and PC. Funny though because I run two wireless x-box 360 joystick controllers on a laptop PC running Win 7 Ultimate for like Madden NFL or as a long remote mouse or TV, etc. Downloaded X-padder for free and also the free MS Developers Compatibility program. Ridiculous how nice this giveaway stuff is. The X-padder guy is cool to give it away but does sell the version for Win 7 however you don't need that if you get the MS freebie. Makes me now wonder if the wheel can be made to work with x-box.

The GT3 RS wheel mutiple buttons can be set-up to any configuration you like. There is also a plug-in file for the built in digital read-out on the wheel (ex: gear identification, etc.).

I was just ready to order the CSR pedals and found this special TODAY only. You have to register at 911wheel.com and go from there.


Another funny tradition: Cyber Monday

Submitted by Thomas on Mon, 11/28/2011 - 09:39.

I love the American innovators to make people buy something. After Black Friday comes "Cyber Monday".

As our Black friday offer was such a huge success we are also offering a special which is valid just today:

Porsche 911 GT3 RS Cyber Monday Edition

You get:

•Porsche 911 GT3RS V2
•CSR Elite Pedals (yes, the ones with load cell)
•Porsche Shifter set
We get:

Just 249,95 USD / EUR instead of the regular 359,85. This is a discount of 30,5%!

Let's see when we will get a Pink Saturday or Space Tuesday.

And because discounts are great in the long run as well, we are permanently lowering the price of the Porsche 911 Carrera Wheel to 99,95€ in Europe. (until supply lasts)

if i was to build my seat setup with a flat screen mount....what would be a good size dedicated monitor to use with it? things are getting evil.....lol

I'd think 32 would be about right....

yea i was thinking a 27-32.....

I'll second the Fanatec wheels.

I own a Logitech Driving force GT, and have used the G25 and G27's, as well as the Xbox FF wheel, and I have to say, the Fanatec wheels are orders of magnitude nicer to use.

I personally picked up a Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo S 'Pure Edition' and freaking LOVE it.

It can be used on PC, PS3 as well as Xbox, so now I can sell my DF GT and Xbox wheel as well!

yea i'm sold on the fanatec gt3 porsche wheel matched to the csr elite pedals (load cell brake)......
going to try to order them soon.......
working on the design for the seat......

One I used at an event last summer had a 40". I'm thinking 32 might be the smallest youd want to go, but that's just me.

I bought a g27 used and it works well on F1 2010. However on gt5 it's useless. No matter what I do with the settings the forcefeedback is totally unrealistic and you just cannot countersteer correctly. I've done everything with the settings but no joy. If you play gt5 at all, I would pass on the g27.

Unless mine is defective somehow? Although like I said, it works great for F1 2010.

Check into a program called Real Feel. Some of the race sim forums might be able to advise of a fix. I joined a yahoo group and without the 'yahoo's if you know what I mean. Terrific guys and they helped a novice like me set-up I was on the grid in short time.

Real Feel is for pc based sims. It wont work for GT5. Gt5 is really limited on the wheel settings for any brand of wheel.

warning-
On my last computer, I was using a Logictec Momo FF, and graphical gliches would flash on the screen. I kept using it. That computer eventually died.

For the current computer I bought another Momo FF, and the same thing would happen(at a certain position of the steering wheel). I'm not sure if it was shorting through the USB cable but the thing went into the trash.

For some time, I pondered the thought of a projector and portable screen for those race weekends at the campground drinking and racing times.

Since I just use a laptop for everything and have GPL and R-factor installed, Porsche wheel and Logi G25 peds and my dorky looking AB roller exercise chair, it might qualify as nerd on the pole.