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VINMAN 12-05-2011 08:11 AM

Question for the cops on here. ( and I guess rest of the guys on here too)
 
For the LEOs .... What are your top driving related pet peves? What offenses do you show no leniency towards?

For the non LEOs... If you were a cop what would yours be?

Mine are :

1. children not belted in or car seats.

2. driving at night, low visibilty/inclement weather with no lights, or just parking lights on.

3.texting/phone.

12own911 12-05-2011 08:19 AM

I would reverse two and three...

stomachmonkey 12-05-2011 08:19 AM

Texting/phone

No lights in inclement weather

Fail to signal

Tailgating and driving the same speed as the car in the lane next to you so traffic piles up.

craigster59 12-05-2011 08:21 AM

Not a cop, but if I was...
1. Texting/ phone

2. Driving in the carpool lane solo

3. Hanging out in the passing lane

4. Driving with no license/ insurance

vash 12-05-2011 08:24 AM

my brother said the only tix he still issues is the "no child seat" one. 90% of the time, it is arguement time..the parent defending their child rearing skills. fantastic.

having said that..two weeks ago, he was driving in his Excursion (unmarked), when some young hottie cut him off, flipped him off when he tooted his horn. he got on the phone and called in the calvary. him and two cruisers pulled her over. he said he HAS to call in marked cars to prevent some woman from claiming any sexual BS to get revenge. almost made me wish i had a badge.

Laneco 12-05-2011 08:25 AM

1. - Cell phone/texting, reading a book. Yes, I've seen people set the cruise and read a book while driving on the freeway, specifically on I-84.

2. - Children unrestrained in the car

3. - Driving without a license or insurance. Especially when you blow a stop sign and drive into my car when I had only liability and comprehensive (no collision) on my $3,000 car so I got to buy a new car out of my own pocket, and then you tried to sue me to get your car repaired (which you had no license to drive because you had too many tickets and no insurance plus you were cited for blowing a stop sign) you worthless deadbeat piece of ****. :mad:

There are quite a few others that drive me nuts, but those three make me go all medieval.

angela

s_morrison57 12-05-2011 09:49 AM

Not a LEO
1. Hate people that don't use the turn signal.
2.I hate it when predestrians walk when the don't walk sign is on and your trying to make a right turn at a red light

livi 12-05-2011 10:24 AM

Tailgating at high speed on open roads.

porsche4life 12-05-2011 10:31 AM

Hanging out in the passing lane. I had one jackoff doing this holding up traffic and putting me in a not to great spot a few days ago when I was pulling a trailer. I finally flipped on the flashing lights on the pickup. Sure they are just orange(we do highway work) but they woke the moron up....

Passing on the shoulder. To get home I have to make a left on a two lane state highway, and more than half the time some dillhole will pass on the shoulder at a narrow margin. Not cool...

Expired dealer plates. Just pisses me off to see these people driving around for well over a month with no tags, which means they have no insurance either. 99% of the time the vehicle is from one of the pay by the week places...

GH85Carrera 12-05-2011 10:42 AM

My number one would have to be driving drunk or high.
Texting and cell phone use is number 2.
Blocking the passing lane is 3.
Failure to yield is 4. On a regular basis some moron will look right at me and pull out of a intersection or driveway right in front of me and I have to hit the brakes hard.
Tailgating in 5.

Racerbvd 12-05-2011 10:48 AM

Flicking cigarette butts at the window and emptying ass trays at stop lights/signs, I take pictures when I see someone do it & post it:mad:

sammyg2 12-05-2011 10:49 AM

First, I'd develop carpal tunnel syndrome writing tickets to the "look at me" attention whores who have to have loud pipes on their motorcycles.

Second, I'd go after the spikey-haired honda-driving doofusses who have to weave in and out changing lanes every 20 seconds, as if donig that would actually end up getting them somewhere quicker.

On my daily afternoon commute I occasionally see these mental midgets make dozens of lane changes while I camp in my one lane, and 10 miles later they are several cars behind me.
All they do is piss people off, screw up traffic, and cause accidents when people have to avoid them.

Targa Me 12-05-2011 10:49 AM

Not a LEO but...
1. No restraints for kids.
2. Non handicap person parking in the handicap spot AND someone using someone else's handicap sign to park in that spot.
3. Tailgaters.
4. DUI'ers.

scottmandue 12-05-2011 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 6411552)
3. - Driving without a license or insurance. Especially when you blow a stop sign and drive into my car when I had only liability and comprehensive (no collision) on my $3,000 car so I got to buy a new car out of my own pocket, and then you tried to sue me to get your car repaired (which you had no license to drive because you had too many tickets and no insurance plus you were cited for blowing a stop sign) you worthless deadbeat piece of ****. :mad:

angela

Especially nice when the LEO lets the person go because he knows the courts will not get any money out of the uninsured/unlicensed/unregistered driver who hit you because he can't afford a brake job. :rolleyes:

enzo1 12-05-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6411830)
Hanging out in the passing lane. I had one jackoff doing this holding up traffic and putting me in a not to great spot a few days ago when I was pulling a trailer. I finally flipped on the flashing lights on the pickup. Sure they are just orange(we do highway work) but they woke the moron up....

Passing on the shoulder. To get home I have to make a left on a two lane state highway, and more than half the time some dillhole will pass on the shoulder at a narrow margin. Not cool...

Expired dealer plates. Just pisses me off to see these people driving around for well over a month with no tags, which means they have no insurance either. 99% of the time the vehicle is from one of the pay by the week places...

Wait until you're wife does this and the guy passing you in the right lane is giving u the evil eye or worse(since your the passenger)..... "HON pull over up here so I can drive... Huh? why?" , doesn't have a clue... I do most of the driving 1) putting on makeup in the rearview mirror

steve185 12-05-2011 12:13 PM

I spent 12 years driving a patrol car, (motorcycle on nice days). Here are mine. I have since moved on to ther investigative pursuits.

#1, Impaired driving, can't get much more selfish than that.

Speeding in residential areas.

Not wearing seat belt, it's the law here. It's unbeleivable how many traffic accident deaths can be prevented by wearing a belt.

Not knowing how to merge. (personel pet peave)

Steve

nynor 12-05-2011 01:14 PM

i don't see many unrestrained kids, but i am sure it happens. i am just not looking for that.

my personal pet peeve is tailgaters. i love to do things like enter corners really hot while driving my porsche or hitting large dips/bumps really hot while in the rover. most of the time, they are so close that they don't even see it coming.

i also really like the lane changing mentality here, in salt lake city. in the last week, twice people have decided to change lanes and try to pass me while i have my turn signal on. in the rover, i just keep moving over. in my other cars, i make a quick dart to the edge of the lane and when they hit the brakes, continue moving over. that one really pisses me off.

oh, and speeding on my street (anywhere residential, actually). our street is two blocks long, and T's at both ends. people still drive on it at 50+ MPH. that pisses me off. especially since i have a two year old and so do many others living here.

/rant

Moses 12-05-2011 01:22 PM

Fluffing while driving.

nynor 12-05-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 6412201)
fluffing while driving.

lol!

BlueSkyJaunte 12-05-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynor (Post 6412183)
i don't see many unrestrained kids, but i am sure it happens. i am just not looking for that.

Happens all the time here. Usually SEVERAL kids, sitting in laps, in a beat-up pickup truck.

Moses 12-05-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve185 (Post 6412060)
Not wearing seat belt, it's the law here. It's unbeleivable how many traffic accident deaths can be prevented by wearing a belt.

Steve

Seriously????

I can't believe that empowering the nanny state makes your list. If an adult chooses to not wear a seatbelt, exactly who is endangered?

Let's outlaw hang gliding, private pilots, motorcycles and everything else that's more dangerous than doing nothing.

nynor 12-05-2011 02:35 PM

wearing a seat belt not only may save your life, it may save another person's life. one has better control in extremis, if one is belted in.

as for the nanny state, yeah, i agree. except for the above.

stomachmonkey 12-05-2011 02:42 PM

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Oh Haha 12-05-2011 02:50 PM

1. Kids not properly restrained.
In MI we have laws so this has decreased in the last decade.

2. People with dogs unrestrained(in the front seat area) or sitting on the driver's lap.
How is this NOT the same or worse than texting while driving?

3. People who don't use their turn indicators.
They are there for a reason, use them.

La-de-da, I think I'll go over in this lane now.

silverwhaletail 12-05-2011 03:05 PM

LEO for 23 years.

-loud music audible 50 feet from a vehicle.
-no license plates on vehicle. (epidemic in CA)
-driving while unlicensed/suspended license.
-kids unrestrained/not properly restrained.
-80,000 lb vehicles in middle lane of freeway, not actively passing slower vehicle.
-intersection gridlock.
-following too closely.
-speeding on city streets. (independent traffic engineers should set realistic speed limits on city streets, and those limits should be enforced with zero tolerance (except for me). Traffic citation fines should be limited to a flat $25, with state laws prohibiting additional fees. Insurance companies should not have access to drivers histories.)

If I lived in a civilized state, then "no insurance" would be on my list.

dui would also be on my list, if the limit was .10 (like it was for a hundred years) instead of the ridiculous .08% like it is now.

azasadny 12-05-2011 03:30 PM

My father and brother are both retired LEO's and they both hate:

1. Drunk (impaired) drivers
2. Wreckless driving
3. Changing lanes unnecessarily and without signalling
4. Talking on the phone...

steve185 12-05-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

If an adult chooses to not wear a seatbelt, exactly who is endangered?
Those people tie up hospital beds for those who really need it, like people hurt while hang gliding, private pilots, motorcycles and everything else.

nynor 12-05-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverwhaletail (Post 6412473)
LEO for 23 years.

-loud music audible 50 feet from a vehicle.
-no license plates on vehicle. (epidemic in CA)
-driving while unlicensed/suspended license.
-kids unrestrained/not properly restrained.
-80,000 lb vehicles in middle lane of freeway, not actively passing slower vehicle.
-intersection gridlock.
-following too closely.
-speeding on city streets. (independent traffic engineers should set realistic speed limits on city streets, and those limits should be enforced with zero tolerance (except for me). Traffic citation fines should be limited to a flat $25, with state laws prohibiting additional fees. Insurance companies should not have access to drivers histories.)

If I lived in a civilized state, then "no insurance" would be on my list.

dui would also be on my list, if the limit was .10 (like it was for a hundred years) instead of the ridiculous .08% like it is now.

interesting. how much of a difference is there between .08 and .10? i know that a guy my size, 210lbs, will blow .08 with as few as two or three beers onboard.

Shifter 12-05-2011 05:37 PM

Fog lights when it isn't foggy. They are called fog lights for a reason.

Overly bright or incorrect headlights, whether it is the bulbs or some ghetto hid setup.

Not using turn signals.

Driving with your head up your arse.

wdfifteen 12-05-2011 05:44 PM

My pet peeve is when some citizen or cop inhibits my ability to exercise my God-given right to do whatever the heck I feel like doing on the highway. Really ticks me off...:mad:

Burkie61 12-05-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

interesting. how much of a difference is there between .08 and .10? i know that a guy my size, 210lbs, will blow .08 with as few as two or three beers onboard.
I think your numbers are wrong Nynor

Run your numbers through the many blood alcohol calculators on line and you will see you are pretty high. Here's a couple:

Blood Alcohol Calculator Check Yourself Before You Wreck Yourself - 3 beers in one hour has you at .041

Blood Alcohol Calculator | Alcohol Help Center - 3 beers in one hour has you at .044


A 210 lb male drinking 3 beers in one hour will probably blow in the .035 - .045 range

I am a LEO but I am not an expert on the subject like some of the traffic LEOs, but generally speaking, each drink is about .015, and you start eliminating alcohol as soon as you drink it. So those same three beers in two hours would put you .025 - .035 range. .08 is certainly higher than most people think

In Canada, the limit is .08. But for technical reasons, we cannot charge anyone unless we get two readings over .1

But back on topic, the driving offences I personally dislike:

Yeah, drinking and driving over .08
Driving with unsecured children
Speeding in school and playground zones (20 mph/30 kph)
Driving with an animal on your lap
And yes Moses, wearing seatbelts. If you saw as many injuries and survivable deaths from not wearing seatbelts as we do, you would want everyone to wear one too.....cause we love you too ; )

nynor 12-05-2011 10:11 PM

okay, i stand corrected. from what you are saying, i can have about 6 or 7 beers in two hours and not be legally drunk. even by my standards, that seems like a lot of beer to not be legally DUI.

s_morrison57 12-06-2011 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burkie61 (Post 6413432)
I think your numbers are wrong Nynor

Run your numbers through the many blood alcohol calculators on line and you will see you are pretty high. Here's a couple:

Blood Alcohol Calculator Check Yourself Before You Wreck Yourself - 3 beers in one hour has you at .041

Blood Alcohol Calculator | Alcohol Help Center - 3 beers in one hour has you at .044


A 210 lb male drinking 3 beers in one hour will probably blow in the .035 - .045 range

I am a LEO but I am not an expert on the subject like some of the traffic LEOs, but generally speaking, each drink is about .015, and you start eliminating alcohol as soon as you drink it. So those same three beers in two hours would put you .025 - .035 range. .08 is certainly higher than most people think

In Canada, the limit is .08. But for technical reasons, we cannot charge anyone unless we get two readings over .1

But back on topic, the driving offences I personally dislike:

Yeah, drinking and driving over .08
Driving with unsecured children
Speeding in school and playground zones (20 mph/30 kph)
Driving with an animal on your lap
And yes Moses, wearing seatbelts. If you saw as many injuries and survivable deaths from not wearing seatbelts as we do, you would want everyone to wear one too.....cause we love you too ; )

I thought it was Zero tolerence now?

VINMAN 12-06-2011 03:54 AM

Trust me, I'm no fan of "nanny state" laws, and I never wore a seatbelt( except in my open Jeep CJ) , until I started cutting victims out of cars wrecks on a regular basis. Changed my outlook real fast.

silverwhaletail 12-06-2011 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynor (Post 6413455)
okay, i stand corrected. from what you are saying, i can have about 6 or 7 beers in two hours and not be legally drunk. even by my standards, that seems like a lot of beer to not be legally DUI.


tread lightly there.

if you have 6 "beers" (12 ounce, not pints or tall boys, or stadium cups) between noon and 2 pm, and you get stopped at 2:05, even at 210 pounds, I guarantee that you are going to be over, way over, .08%.

I believe that the absorption rates that these online BAC Calculators are using as "constants" for rate of absorption, are flawed.

I have seen people breeze through field sobriety tests, and then blow .08 or .10. Their motor coordination was fine, as was their ability to understand and then carry out the field sobriety tests. The dead giveaway is the presence of horizontal gaze nystagmus and bounce.

the california highway patrol is ruthless. They could care less if you are "impaired", the only thing that matters to them is .08% BAC.

I have firsthand experience, administering a breathalyzer/alcosensor to myself at cop parties... .08% is surprisingly little alcohol over a couple of hours.

tread lightly.

Rick Lee 12-06-2011 07:05 AM

I've never not worn a seatbelt, but I think it's outrageous the state requires it, especially states that have no helmet laws for motorcyclists. WTF?

FWIW, in China I saw at least 10x a day people riding mopeds with toddlers in their laps, no helmets and usually talking on a cell phone while riding.

stomachmonkey 12-06-2011 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 6413881)
....FWIW, in China I saw at least 10x a day people riding mopeds with toddlers in their laps, no helmets and usually talking on a cell phone while riding.

That's certainly one way to keep their population growth in check.;)

Rick Lee 12-06-2011 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6413910)
That's certainly one way to keep their population growth in check.;)

Doesn't even come close.

stomachmonkey 12-06-2011 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 6413915)
Doesn't even come close.

Every bit helps.

Roosterrusek 12-06-2011 07:39 AM

Not wearing a seatbelt = no insurance coverage for your medical bills. I mean, you are allowed to be stupid, but why should I have to pay for it? And please don't think that the cost is not transferred onto others...


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