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Moses 12-07-2011 01:34 PM

Is it or isn't it?
 
The parking stall on the right. Is it a handicapped only space? You can see the faded paint indicating that it might have been at one time and is no longer... But there is a "Handicapped Parking" plaque on the wall of the building in front of the spot. Well?

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BlueSkyJaunte 12-07-2011 01:35 PM

In AZ, vertical sign = handicapped parking = ticket if you don't have a tag.

Ask my wife how she knows. :rolleyes:

vash 12-07-2011 01:37 PM

is that Shadelands in walnut creek?

i've done ONE parking lot in my career. IIRC, the thing that makes it a handicap spot IS the sign. so my opinion. the one on the right is, and the one on the left with the symbol on the asphalt..isnt.

crazy.

Rick V 12-07-2011 01:37 PM

When in doubt just assume it is, not much more ticks me off than seeing someone park there who doesn't need it. I have almost gotten into fist fights about this because I am not polite when I point out that someone is a lazy ignorant P.O.S.

azasadny 12-07-2011 01:39 PM

Handicapped only! Now the "handicapped" bathroom stalls, that's an entirely different matter!

Moses 12-07-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 6417362)
is that Shadelands in walnut creek?

i've done ONE parking lot in my career. IIRC, the thing that makes it a handicap spot IS the sign. so my opinion. the one on the right is, and the one on the left with the symbol on the asphalt..isnt.

crazy.

It's outside my office in San Ramon. And I know the answer to the question. :D:D:D

pwd72s 12-07-2011 01:45 PM

Both are for handicapped use. The sign on the wall...and the painted area could be a space reserved for a wheelchair lift platform to set down on.

Laws vary from state to state. In Oregon some spaces are for cars with handicapped permits, and others, marked "Van accessible" are meant for handicapped equipped vans with wheelchair lifts only.

steve911 12-07-2011 02:29 PM

I'd say they both are, but I think the curbs in front should also be blue to further distinguish them.

Tobra 12-07-2011 02:38 PM

The one on the right is not ADA compliant. The owner of your building might pay through the nose on that.

peppy 12-07-2011 02:47 PM

My guess is the one with the sign on the wall is a handicap spot the one just marked on the pavement is not.

masraum 12-07-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve911 (Post 6417557)
I'd say they both are, but I think the curbs in front should also be blue to further distinguish them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotaBRG (Post 6417628)
I wouldn't park in either spot.

If I'm in the tiniest bit of doubt, I park someplace else. I've seen tickets of $500 or more. I can walk a long way for $500.

UconnTim97 12-07-2011 02:54 PM

The sign on the wall is enough for me not to park there.

12own911 12-07-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azasadny (Post 6417367)
Handicapped only! Now the "handicapped" bathroom stalls, that's an entirely different matter!

+1. I love the handicapped restroom. SmileWavy

stomachmonkey 12-07-2011 03:59 PM

We call them Handicrappers.

gassy 12-07-2011 04:20 PM

Yes

id10t 12-07-2011 04:31 PM

Here in Fl neither of them are a legally marked handicapped spot - so if you got a ticket you could fight it and win

On the other hand, anyone with half a brain can see that it is intended to be one... so yeah, you can park there, but if you do you are a butt head

RWebb 12-07-2011 04:31 PM

I'm with Paul - the blue vertical sign on the wall does it for me.

gshase 12-07-2011 04:45 PM

In Texas it must be clearly marked. If you have to ask I think you could beat a ticket. I still would not park there. Some dim wit marked the parking lot.

Zeke 12-07-2011 04:53 PM

The one on the left has access to the ramp whereas the one on the right does not if someone has used the LH one. Therefore, it is either not HC or not compliant. Take your pick. I'm not saying the RH person can't walk around the back of the vehicle because the LH person has to anyway. But, that's not how the design works.

The best way to handle this is to make both spots into one wheelchair van spot. However, there may be a certain number of parking spots on the parking plan approved by the city. You do as they tell you to do and that is the way it is enforced.

This comes from one who has submitted parking plans. Sometimes it's crazy.

peppy 12-09-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 6417384)
It's outside my office in San Ramon. And I know the answer to the question. :D:D:D

Okay, what is the answer?SmileWavy


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