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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 6568882)

I certainly wouldn't lock myself in a room with a manual and some tools but I think I will get it done. With this board, the rebuild book, and access to some of the old Burmos Atlanta techs I'll get it back together. I'm nore nervous about the machine work as that is one part that is out of my hands.

This guy isn't too far from me and he just tore apart his Carrera 4 Cam. He doesn't have any experience either, just a set of the shop manuals and an engineering background.

I've been around only one cammer engine and it is indeed not a place for beginners. Why would anyone want to tear into a motor and rebuild it knowing the whole thing was not designed to run for very long. That is the basis for a lot of compromise. How do you compromise when you don't know the variables?

At least with the 911 and 930 motor there is a set of specs that you really should stay within. I think Wayne covered most of them.

This is really good.

How do I put in my signature?

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 6570242)

And here we go again.......

Perhaps you need to look up the definition of elitest before you go throwing names around, before you insult someone you should really understand what you're saying. That statement insinuates that I look down on drivers of other cars because I am, of course, a Porsche snob. Never mind the fact that I do and have owned cars from just about every make, including a *gasp* Ford. While I certainly enjoy Porsches quite frankly I more enjoy just cars, and I appreciate them from all eras and makers. I find it ironic that you drive a Mustang that was substantially more expensive to purchase than my 996, yet I'm being accused of snobbery. I drive used cars because I can't afford a new one, I am a man of modest means and have never represented myself as anything but.

Of course you're simply taking an act from PARF - if you can't argue your point with facts, just call names. It's easier than constructing a rational argument, particularly an argument that you can't win with facts. The fact of the matter is that I can find multiple articles from nationally known car magazines that echo exactly my sentiments about the Mustang, particularly the older 4.6 models. But lets not let facts get in the way of a good argument, because I know as well as I'm wasting my time writing this that you'll come back with some sort of oblivious retort about how fantastic Mustangs are, probably including a picture and some sort of statement showing how clever you think you are. The reality is that you're just a sad man trolling a Porsche forum, allowing your insecurities about being a former owner to manifest themselves in new found hatred for the marque you once enjoyed. Because a club can't possibly be cool if you're not a member of it, right?

Well said Matt! I would like to think that most of us here just enjoy cars, and motorcycles, and women, and whiskey, without the need to denigrate someone else's preference.

I own an '86 3.2 911 that I completely rebuilt the engine. Myself. In my garage. Without help. Wayne's rebuild book and this board made it possible. My only moment of nervousness was worrying that I would not get the case halves bolted together in the time designated before the sealant dried. But that turned out to be a needless worry. 8 years later, still running great.

Oh and as to the 911-Mustang debate? I own one of each. That way I can just sit around and insult myself without having to come here. :D

Paul, as to your Mustang. It is a throw away car. Mine is a hoot to drive, but it will be gone before the warranty expires and I will move on to the next flavor of the week.

You would think that if is so easy to rebuild a 911 engine that Motor Sheister would not have many problems. Perhaps they should do Fords.

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6570312)

You would think that if is so easy to rebuild a 911 engine that Motor Sheister would not have many problems. Perhaps they should do Fords.

Zeke, it is not easy, but if you take your time, you can do it yourself. I would just work on it in segments. Start to finish was around 3 months. Maybe you would rather pay someone else to rebuild a 911 engine. I preferred to do it myself.

Whats up with the poster of negative Porsche vs. how great the Mustang is? Is this about comparing the complete car today or the cost of an engine rebuilds from older 1980's 911 to 1990's+ Fords?

So if the topic is drifting in that direction, maybe that should be a new thread but I've got a short story to share. I had a fellow trade an approx. 2,000 mile perfect like new Ford Mustang 5.0 GT convert. w/ manual trans. in for a 911 turbo. Thought I'd like to try a Pony again so I purchased the trade-in. What a car to get in wonderful trouble with! There's much to talk about in that prior sentence and will skip all that but in the end (owned it just a little more than a year), I was through with the new Ford idea. All of it... the dealers, the P.O.S car but thats the attitude expected one gets from domestic cars.

I still own some early Fords and Porsche but for completely different reasons.

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6570312)

You would think that if is so easy to rebuild a 911 engine that Motor Sheister would not have many problems. Perhaps they should do Fords.

I didn't realize you hated Fords that much.
:D

Kurt, as far as "throwaway" goes, I pretty much view all new cars as "throwaway"...that's why even the great P-car suffers tremendous depreciation. My plan is to sell or trade the Bullitt after it's extended warranty expires.