The Wealthy REALLY ARE Different...

[jwasbury]

From the article (I added emphasis):

"The observers tracked the make, age, and conditions of cars, using them as a proxy for class. High-status vehicles such as Mercedes were considered the provenance of the rich, and those driving them were about three times more likely to cut in than those in less flashy cars."

While it makes for flashy and shocking headlines (the business of the news today, no?) this study is practically worthless. So they ASSumed that make/age and condition of cars is a proxy for class...so every person who drives a late model Mercedes is wealthy? I guess the people conducting the study haven't heard of low mileage leases and buying on credit.

[Eric 88 Carrera]

There is a better indicator of those who lie, cheat and steal. Look at crime rates by geographical area and voter registration. Democrat areas overwhelmingly have higher rates of crime reported. The prison population which by definition is made up of those who lie, cheat and steal is also overwhelmingly Democrat.

I though another perspective might be called for on this thread.

[RWebb]

nope - that just tells you who gets caught

white collar criminals are much smarter


Jacob - that was only one component of the study

[Superman]

Originally Posted by Eric 88 Carrera

There is a better indicator of those who lie, cheat and steal. Look at crime rates by geographical area and voter registration. Democrat areas overwhelmingly have higher rates of crime reported. The prison population which by definition is made up of those who lie, cheat and steal is also overwhelmingly Democrat.

I though another perspective might be called for on this thread.

This sort of input is perhaps more appropriate for PARF. If this discussion were another "us against them" dispute, I'd ask for the data you used in arriving at this conclusion, and I'd suggest you look at how liberalism is correlated with income, education and a host of other progressive characteristics. Southern states are notably more conservative, and also substantially poorer and less educated. For example.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Superman

This sort of input is perhaps more appropriate for PARF. If this discussion were another "us against them" dispute, I'd ask for the data you used in arriving at this conclusion, and I'd suggest you look at how liberalism is correlated with income, education and a host of other progressive characteristics. Southern states are notably more conservative, and also substantially poorer and less educated. For example.

Did you just step in his sch!t?

[Superman]

Yeah, I guess I did. I can't help myself. My name is Jim, and I'm a disputeaholic.

[PorscheGAL]

This study doesn't work. If you read The Millionaire Next Door the most common car driven was a domestic car that was bought used not a Mercedes. Owning a Mercedes does not equal wealth.

[RWebb]

you are conflating two different things here

besides that, a mere millionaire is not wealthy these days

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by widebody911

I'd bet money (if I had any) that Americans don't have a lock on this behavior.

Not by a long shot. Our glass house isn't stone resistant. Morally, we can't point the finger at everyone else until we stone proof our own digs.

Originally Posted by widebody911

Here's the question: do they cheat and lie because they're rich (and know they can get away with it) or are they rich because they cheat and lie (socio-economic Darwinism)?

It's a little of both and some of neither. There are rich folks who worked hard, worked smart, and reaped the rewards. There are some who chose their DNA well and only had to wait for the DNA donors to die. There are some who did indeed cheat and lie to get rich. In almost every case, money put them in a position of power, from which they could assure that the rules tended to keep them and their heirs wealthy.

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL

... Owning a Mercedes does not equal wealth.

It does, for the bank...

[Zeke]

Again, the article linked does not mention just what wealthy or rich means.

From the article:

“We’re definitely not suggesting that any upper-class person … is going to be less ethical than every lower-class person. You need to be cautious in terms of applying these findings to predict the behaviour of a single individual,”

Read more: CTV News | Cheat, lie, break the law? Chances are, you're rich

[mikesride]

Where I live driving a Mercedes means you own a Chinese restaurant....

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by mikesride

Where I live driving a Mercedes means you own a Chinese restaurant....

OK, I'll take a Combo 2 with an Egg Foo Yung 如此做它

[tabs]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

It does, for the bank...

Acht Zooooo.....People who drive MB;s never get rich because they never finish paying off the bank.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by tabs

Acht Zooooo.....People who drive MB;s never get rich because they never finish paying off the bank.

I always paid cash for mine. I made the mistake of leasing a BMW (I am SO glad that POS is gone). When/if I decide I need something besides my pickup and my toys I'm gonna pay cash for a Camry or Accord.

[PorscheGAL]

If this website sells parts for high-end cars like in the study, then logic follows that it facilitates the behavior of these type of individuals through movement.

Then the following questions arise:

Does this forum and website facilitate the behavior of people that lie and cheat?

Do the vendors that advertise on the website empower the people that lie and cheat?

Does this mean that this forum and the website is a cause of this behavior?

Does this mean that by purchasing parts from this website that I'm helping a business that empower the people that lie and cheat?

[pwd72s]

Quite the conflict, eh Stephanie? Funny post...I dig your tongue in cheek.

Randy thinks he's on a roll, but he really should leave the class envy & hatred schtick to the professionals inside the beltway.

[RWebb]

I prefer biscuits, Paul. Not sure what you're talking about anyway...

[Hugh R]

Originally Posted by RWebb

besides that, a mere millionaire is not wealthy these days

I agree, that is why they shouldn't be paying those additional taxes. Again, lets not confuse a net worth of a million with a salary of a million.

[PorscheGAL]

Rwebb, does the post below prove what you posted?

Thinking of trading in wife's Boxster to get a new car. CLS55 AMG anyone?

I think it proves just the opposite of what you believe.