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Ford Focus Electric officially EPA rated 105mpge and 76 miles range
Ford Focus Electric officially rated at 105 MPGe with a 76-mile range
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$39,995 base price with destination. Qualifies for $7,500 EV tax credit.
Same exact price as the Chevrolet VOLT I wonder how all of this will play out in the marketplace. Esp if rising gas prices consistently make the news.
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I really like the looks of the new Focus, electric or not
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Very nice looking car.
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Looks nice. Not sure I see a market for a 40k people mover, but the tech is impressive.
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I saw these testing around Detroit last summer. But with the Volt factory shut down and 1300 workers laid off, why does Ford think this will sell any better?
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It has the leftover Aston Martin Grille! (Sorry Hugh)
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One, the Volt (love it or hate it) is a stand-alone model, like Toyota's Prius. The Focus Electric is one of several Focus trim levels. It's easy to see exactly the premium you are paying to choose EV and do the math. It's awfully hard to make the Focus Electric pencil well. Two, the Volt is both electric AND gas which makes the range question mute. So you know someone, somewhere will ask why the Focus is just as expensive with just batteries as a Volt is with batteries and an engine. So if the Volt is already in trouble at $40K, will the Focus follow? But hey, at least Ford did it on their own, with no government intervention, right?
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regular fucus half the price. same reason the cruz outsells the volt.
$7.5k credit doesnt make up the price difference. same reason uber-green seattle only has 2% of the population driving hybrids/electrics of any kind. PEMCO Poll: Are Hybrid Vehicles a Northwest Rarity?
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The battery pack is still nearly half of the price of the car. Come trade in time in 3-4 years when new improved battery packs should be available in new cars ( you can have hope but there WILL be change).....well, what's an old computer worth?
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I believe that Mazda helped Ford out with the Focus, that is before Ford sold their interest in Mazda. The Focus is really an excellent car for the money.
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A Scalectric slot car but for that money? All novelty to burn up some stupid money. I do appreciate the attempt for this technology but these golf carts should be a $12k car and not $40,000 list. Also, the argument is long winded of what it cost to charge them and equation vs. $5.00 per gal. of petrol. Too bad we can't have those slick Euro diesels in the States.
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When I can get a really nice Focus hatchback for $20k that gets about 40 MPG......no thanks. The ROI on these new electric cars is terrible, even worse than on a hybrid because they're more expensive. Other than being able to act pretentious and green, I don't get it.
An aside, the EPA really dropped the ball with trying to connect MPG and electric cars. They need a new rating system for electric cars that can be equated to a real operating cost, like kW per mile.
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IMO, electric only cars will never really be more than an urban-use niche market unless (1) the cars are designed with standardized battery packs, and (2) a nationwide infrastructure of battery pack "changing" stations is in place. Like the investment in gasoline "filling" stations in the early-to-middle part of the 20th century, some parties are going to have to throw money into changing stations and at the same time, convince the auto manufacturers to adopt a single or small number of standardized battery packs.
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By the time this happens I suspect we will have some sort of hydrogen fuel cell technology. It's already progressed to being a usable solution, Honda has leased Hydrogen fuel cell cars in CA right now. The biggest hurdle is cost and infrastructure, but it's probably easier to add a hydrogen pump to a gas station than to install plugs everywhere.
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I disagree about the battery range / recharging comments, Matt. The range, could be less, if the car is ready to resume traveling quickly (and cheaply) enough. Having long range (large current capacity in the batteries) and fast recharging time may be just too much to achieve. A fast battery pack swap is, to me, a more viable approach.
CNG and fuel cells look interesting, but in the case of fuel cells, don't you need to expend energy to create the hydrogen fuel? Will that happen on site, at the refueling stations, or a locations analogous to refineries, and then distribute the hydrogen using some additional infrastructure.
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