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Z-man 03-08-2012 11:50 AM

Mensa Calendar Error (aka Z-man has trouble with addition vs. multiplication)
 
So - so today's puzzle reads:

Quote:

Find a six-digit odd number containing no zeros and no repeated digits in which the first digit is four more than the second digit, the third digit is one less than the sixth digit, and the fourth and fifth digits when read as a single number equal the product of the first and sixth digits.
I came up with two possible solutions, but the Mensa answer says there is only one.

Can you find the answer?

-Z

lendaddy 03-08-2012 12:03 PM

628549

lendaddy 03-08-2012 12:07 PM

scratch the second one

lendaddy 03-08-2012 12:16 PM

That's the only answer I see, what else did you come up with?

island911 03-08-2012 12:22 PM

Is this in base 10?

ChemMan 03-08-2012 12:29 PM

642537
or
624537 if they mean the 4th digit must come before the 5th in the product sequence.

lendaddy 03-08-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChemMan (Post 6609612)
642537

First digit must be four more than second

Z-man 03-08-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 6609571)
that's the only answer i see, what else did you come up with?

738169

Amail 03-08-2012 12:36 PM

But I thought the fourth and fifth digits when read as a single number equal the product of the first and sixth digits. The product of 7 and 9 is not 16.

lendaddy 03-08-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 6609632)
738169

"the fourth and fifth digits when read as a single number equal the product of the first and sixth digits"

You're adding, "product" means multiply.

krystar 03-08-2012 12:37 PM

to translate the puzzle into something more easily readable.

variables A,B,C,D,E in integer space {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}
variable F in integer space {1,3,5,7,9}

where A<>B<>C<>D<>E<>F (non repeated digits)
A=B+4
C=F-1
D*10+E=A*F



solving....

A=B+4 would limit A to {5,6,7,8,9} and B to {1,2,3,4}
C=F-1 would limit C to {2,4,6,8} and F to {3,5,7,9}

E is basically free to be any digit.
E=A*F-D*10

i think 952637 works

ChemMan 03-08-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 6609622)
First digit must be four more than second

I was assuming the 1st digit was in the 10^0 place, 2nd digit was in the 10^1 place etc.

svandamme 03-08-2012 12:45 PM

What do you mean with "2 numbers , read as a single digit" ????

island911 03-08-2012 12:50 PM

"when read as a single number " 12, for example.

krystar 03-08-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChemMan (Post 6609653)
I was assuming the 1st digit was in the 10^0 place, 2nd digit was in the 10^1 place etc.

ahh true there's an ambiguity i assumed first digit is 10^5 place.

svandamme 03-08-2012 12:53 PM

ok, now i get it
well, what island said : 628549 seems right to me

lendaddy 03-08-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krystar (Post 6609642)

i think 952637 works

Third digit is not one less than the sixth

krystar 03-08-2012 12:59 PM

oh heh. yea i did 5th.

krystar 03-08-2012 01:00 PM

the real thing is. not only do u have to find 1 case. u have to then prove that there's none other than 1 case proving it....i need to do more formal math....and i'm out of brain cells now

Z-man 03-08-2012 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 6609639)
"the fourth and fifth digits when read as a single number equal the product of the first and sixth digits"

You're adding, "product" means multiply.

Yep. Oppsy. Never could get my addition and mutiplication straight! :eek:


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