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GH85Carrera 03-23-2012 10:57 AM

I saw an article in the paper today about some congressman introducing a bill to make it illegal for a employer to ask.

azasadny 03-23-2012 03:15 PM

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I know it is not apples to apples, but I had to submit to background checks, polygraphs, pee tests, submit financial statements, etc. to become and remain a government employee and hold a clearance.<br>
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But this is creepy to me, not something as a business owner I would ever ask for.<br>
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A friend of mine always walks people he interviews for a job to their car after the interview is complete. He feels he learns more about the person by looking at how they treat their car than any other interview question.
Yep! The "car test" is valid!

stealthn 03-23-2012 03:45 PM

"Facebook takes your privacy seriously," Facebook Chief Privacy Officer Erin Egan said.

Hahaha that's a good one.

So where do you stand on companies like Bestbuy that demand to inspect your backpack or purse as you leave from work?


Bob

szyzygy 03-23-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 6636929)
And what if one does not have a facebook page?

that's what I'd tell 'em.

This is bull*****. I hate corporate culture stuff, this just takes the cake.

I have a plaque from when I was in management at UPS and it said, I kid you not:

"when I was chosen to become a partner, I knew my future was ordained. There is no other path for me.", among other similar mind-numbing plattitudes.

szyzygy 03-23-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 6643169)
"Facebook takes your privacy seriously," Facebook Chief Privacy Officer Erin Egan said.

Hahaha that's a good one.

So where do you stand on companies like Bestbuy that demand to inspect your backpack or purse as you leave from work?


Bob

That's way different. Assuming you are not posting Facebook at work, they have no legal standing to inspect your posts. Unless you post stuff without any privacy measures, but then that's up to you if you want to risk that.

Zeke 03-23-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6642485)
I saw an article in the paper today about some congressman introducing a bill to make it illegal for a employer to ask.

Just what we need, another bill. Microbills.

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Originally Posted by szyzygy (Post 6643180)
that's what I'd tell 'em.

This is bull*****. I hate corporate culture stuff, this just takes the cake.

I have a plaque from when I was in management at UPS and it said, I kid you not:

"when I was chosen to become a partner, I knew my future was ordained. There is no other path for me.", among other similar mind-numbing plattitudes.

That right there is scary.

john70t 03-23-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6643266)
That right there is scary.

Just a simple mixup.
Szyzygy didn't have the correct brain-stem chip implanted at that time, but we're trying to correct that.

szyzygy 03-23-2012 05:21 PM

I'll have to scan that plaque in and share it. It's pretty crazy. Like a cult.

peppy 03-24-2012 06:06 AM

I don't think that it is anymore of an invasion of my privacy than a criminal background check, blood/urine test, mental health check, or financial checks.

T77911S 03-26-2012 06:21 AM

i dont facebook
i dont twit
i dont give my phone number to whatever store wants it as i am checking out
i dont give out my email. i use a fake if needed. usually biteme@sc.rr.com

Laneco 03-26-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by peppy (Post 6644121)
I don't think that it is anymore of an invasion of my privacy than a criminal background check, blood/urine test, mental health check, or financial checks.

Exactly. I've done the gov't secret security clearance dog and pony show for my employment and for my husband. Plus urine tests, plus criminal background, plus credit check, etc.

You want to see what I have going on with facebook? Have at it. I've got nothing to hide and I love my friends/family. There is nothing there, nor will there EVER be anything there that I am unwilling to share.

Whether some bill passes that prevents it or not, is absolutely a non-issue to me. As far as I'm concerned if you are concerned with what people may say or think about your postings - well then step away from the keyboard. If you choose not to, understand that what you say can and will be used against you. Just like it would be "in real life."

angela

widebody911 04-03-2012 07:40 AM

Interesting article on the subject: I hereby resign - raganwald's posterous

Porsche-O-Phile 04-03-2012 08:24 AM

So if a person walks into a face-to-face interview and is visibly pregnant or disabled, or a minority, or whatever (wearing a yamaka or a head scarf), could they take the same position (i.e. "it is now reasonable to expect that you're aware I'm a member of a protected class and as such, not hiring me could amount to discrimination")?

I don't disagree with the Dir. resigning on this (this kind of B.S. snooping is only opening up the company to a host of problems) but just sayin'... Interesting topic.

Companies need to stop the stupid games when it comes to hiring and focus on the three things that matter - (1) experience / work history / portfolio, (2) recommendations and (3) personality. That's what I've always focused on when making those decisions. There's some legitimacy to a criminal background check and/or a credit check but only once a candidate has passed everything else and "has the job", just to allay any final reservations.

I really like the "car check" idea. I keep mine immaculate and it only would work to my benefit (maybe they'd think I'm obsessive, which I've been accused of and view as not necessarily a bad thing). I hate dirty/sloppy/badly-maintained cars, houses, people, etc. and I also can't disorganization in the workplace. Doesn't have to be pin-neat, but you should be able to find/retrieve/use things functionally within 30 seconds or it's a problem.

nynor 04-03-2012 11:42 AM

the car thing would suck for me: my car is usually dirty (not terrible, just not eat-off-it-clean) and the interior usually has some extraneous rubbish in it, like my racing bucket (full of stuff for AX days), a torque wrench, a receipt or two, and half the interior is removed with a moving blanket covering the back. however, it is always in top mechanical shape, good oil, etc.

willtel 04-03-2012 12:17 PM

I drove my 930 to my last job interview. Anyone that sees me in that automatically assumes I am an *******. No thanks, I can find my own way out.

Laneco 04-03-2012 03:19 PM

The car thing isn't a bad idea at all.

If you spot zip ties, duct tape, plastic garbage bags, bleach, and a shovel in a car...

You might want to be significantly careful. Let's put it this way - let someone else tell the applicant they are NOT hired. :eek:

As far as 1987 930 goes, I would take a good look at that car. Any 25 year old car that is (as I assume yours is) in excellent condition tells me that the candidate appreciates fine machinery and is capable of maintaining it to a high standard. Would probably take good care of any company car I gave him. If the candidate's car looks like it was driven in a destruction derby by Helen Keller, well - that person might increase my insurance/risk exposure...

angela


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