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stomachmonkey 05-09-2012 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 6736189)
Twobone, you might consider not waiting until next time before you take this up with the school. You'd be letting them get away with some bullying behavior of their own. Instead, you might have a chat with them wherein you tell them that they are in the wrong for placing your child in detention. Their inability to handle this bully kid is getting out of hand, particularly if the bully is pushing teachers on their way to class. YOU hold THEM responsible for the safety problem your child faces daily. There will be no essays received from your child. Then ask them what their plan is for dealing with this problem they (the school) have allowed to fester.

This is a problem, and your kid is not the cause. The bully is the cause and, since the problem is a known one, the school has an unsatisfied responsibility.

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85eurocarrera 05-09-2012 04:43 AM

Not to proud of it, but I bullied a kid back when I was in 5th grade. He was "weak" physically. When I ran into him 30 some years later and apologized he was cool with it. Glad I had the opportunity to do so.

He directed me to his web site Fish Chaser
He was always into fishing, and a talented artist. He has done well, I'm glad.

didn't mean he was cool with me bullying him, he accepted my apologies. He admitted that he brought some of it on himself...not that that is any excuse for my actions.

twobone 05-09-2012 04:56 AM

Big kid got suspended for pushing the teacher and foul language.

My kid is fine and probably has a bit of new street cred. Apparently my son pushed the big kid to the ground after the kid got off him.

Anyways, all is good now

I'm going to take my son and his buddies to the Avengers this weekend.

Seahawk 05-09-2012 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by twobone (Post 6737247)
Big kid got suspended for pushing the teacher and foul language.

My kid is fine and probably has a bit of new street cred. Apparently my son pushed the big kid to the ground after the kid got off him.

Good.

This has been a very interesting thread from a number of perspectives.

When I was in High School at Newbury Park HS in California in the '70's, the coaches and PE instructors had a set of huge boxing gloves...when things got chippy between two guys, they would clear the gym, have the two protagonists don the gloves and box until they were exhausted.

No one except the coaches and PE instructors were allowed to watch the fight.

I have no idea if parents were called for permission, etc. All I know is that it seemed to be a very effective way of easing tensions without getting someone hurt.

Boxing is hard work.

Different time, I know, but often the best possible avenue for teenage boys to settle their differences is to have them go toe to toe in a safe environment.

cstreit 05-09-2012 06:49 AM

The advice my stepdad game me... when I was getting bullied by a kid much bigger than me. (as were most kids unfortuantely)


"When he starts pushing you, the instant he drops his hands hit him in the nose as hard as you can. Do it a few times if you can. More than likely you will get your a$$ kicked. However after 2-3 time of this, the bully will get tired of getting his nose bloodied and find someone that won't fight back."

He was right on all counts. That said, on time number 3, I fricken buried the guy I was so angry. Never got bullied again, by anyone. :) If they suspended me, My Dad would have been in school with me lobbying and never would have gotten in trouble. I HATE the sissification of boys today.

Have a similar situation with a kid in my sons first grade class. Not bullying per se, but no sense of personal space or decorum. He tries to crush kids by "hugging" them and they all hate it. When the teachers ask he says "I was just showing them I love them.". (Catholic school). I advised my son to push his hand up under the kids chin with his palm next time, HARD. He asked me "What happens when I get in trouble?" I told him I'll buy him an icecream and take him down to the school and get THEM in trouble for forcing you into doing this. :)

Superman 05-09-2012 07:58 AM

Yes, boys sometimes just need to go toe-to-toe.

Yes, boxing is hard work.

Bullies almost invariably will leave people alone who stick up for themselves. Bullies pick on those who don't stick up for themselves.

The way to win a fight is to punch the other guy in the face rapidly and keep doing this until the fight is over. This tends to take about twenty seconds. Do not shuck and jive and play defense. Fist fighting is pure offense. In my hometown, fighting was the principle recreational activity, particularly after the bowling alley burned down.

It sounds like the situation is resolved, Twobone. If the problem recurs, I would somewhat storm into the school and insist they describe to me their plan for addressing it.

Bill Douglas 05-09-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 6737398)
a set of huge boxing gloves...

I did this when I worked in Defence. If some guys where starting to anoy me I'd wait until one day when the gym instructor didn't turn up and I'd say "OK, Im taking over, it's boxing day." And really sort out thses pricks without getting into trouble over it :)


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