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Joe Bob 06-09-2012 06:46 PM

Oi.....that is a recurring nightmare I have, double clip from a train wreck.

Well one way of getting taller, push button ratchet legs so you can adjust your height. 5'10" to 6'6"......you can drive any car w/o having to adjust the seat.

944Larry 06-09-2012 06:55 PM

Reckon I'll have to go with the no crowd. I do admire the guy for his guts and determination but this doesn't seem right.

DanielDudley 06-09-2012 07:06 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/movies-true-story-behind-dolphin-tale/2011/09/20/gIQAZCFLrK_story.html




You know, when they made the prosthetic tail for Winter the dolphin, they made advances in prosthetic s that made a great deal of difference to disabled humans. What ever that man is doing, he is going to create a world of difference in how we see disabilities, and in how the disabled can perceive themselves, in addition to any way in which his running may help the development of artificial limbs.

And you know it is true. Look at how some of you are implying that some how he is ''advantaged''.

There must be almost a quarter of a million young veterans who have lost limbs in Iraq and Afghanistan. He isn't just running for himself. As I see it, he is running for all of them.

Let him run. And for God's sake, let's get Tiny Tim that operation that he needs too. Oh, wait that would be socialized medicine. Effing Commie Bastiges... Mark my words, someone is going to get some kind of advantage over me. Well... Not on MY dime !

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Mothy 06-09-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 6795013)
Along the same lines, is Australia really this pussified?

A picture of a guy holding a gun a enough to get kicked him off the Olympic team? Seriously? If that's representative of the opinions of that country, God Help them.

Nothin 'pussified' down here. Both these guys in the picture have a history of doing things which bring their sport (swimming) into disrepute. One smashes the face of a fellow swimmer at a party, then when he is convicted in a civil case declares himself bankrupt to avoid having to pay the compensation. The other guy claims he is a victim of a hit and run assault, only later confessing he actually fell off his skate board - a complete waste of police time and money investigating a non event.

We don't need idiots on our national team - we have done well in the past without them. As for our medal count in swimming, I think we have done quite well over the years.

Tim

Hugh R 06-09-2012 07:32 PM

Daniel, lighten up. This is OT, not PARF. The bicycle is a good example. How about a guy with no disabilities putting on a set of those skids for bounce? Where do you draw the line.

OTOH, what about the Olympians who shoot, should they be allowed to use contact lenses or glasses? Its an academic discussion, don't get so wound up.

Joe Bob 06-09-2012 07:52 PM

Oscar Pistorius — The Fastest Man With No Legs [VIDEO] | Ryan Seacrest - The official entertainment news site of American Idol host and American Top 40 on air radio personality!

Joe Bob 06-09-2012 07:57 PM

Based on my experience....both as a track official, starter and athlete (I'm in a local College Hall of Fame).....

His length of stride, gait and style show nothing out of the ordinary that would be called 'enhanced' by his prosthesis. I am going to change my mind.

IF he manages to make a qualification time he should be allowed to compete.

He is simply the best para athlete and he is good enough to compete with the big boys. If his type of 'mod' was so good there would be more of them trying to compete. There aren't.

His mod is like replacement for his natural legs. He probably at the least has more developed thigh muscles.....but that is just extra effort on his part. He was a very good athlete on the old standard F/G legs when he played Rugby.

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flatbutt 06-09-2012 08:00 PM

I wanted to participate, not compete in a biathlon, just swimming and biking. But since I can't lift my right arm and my right leg is profoundly weak I need a flotation device for the swim. The organizers said no way as they have no provision for such paticipants. I totally get it. He should complete in the paralympics in something called the " prosthetically enhanced division".

sammyg2 06-10-2012 08:04 AM

[QUOTE=Joe Bob;6795335][QUOTE=sammyg2;6795013]
Along the same lines, is Australia really this pussified?

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BTW he's frum South Aferca.....so bad on ya, eh....:rolleyes:
Who's from SA, leggless? If that's what you mean then that's just great.

Unfortunately I was talking about the guys who are getting kicked off the AUSTRALIAN Olympic team for a picture of them holding guns are from ...............drum roll ......... Austrailia.

Joe Bob 06-10-2012 08:09 AM

musta missed the memo on the reason for the segue and don't see the connection.

sammyg2 06-10-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mothy (Post 6795999)
Nothin 'pussified' down here. Both these guys in the picture have a history of doing things which bring their sport (swimming) into disrepute. One smashes the face of a fellow swimmer at a party, then when he is convicted in a civil case declares himself bankrupt to avoid having to pay the compensation. The other guy claims he is a victim of a hit and run assault, only later confessing he actually fell off his skate board - a complete waste of police time and money investigating a non event.

We don't need idiots on our national team - we have done well in the past without them. As for our medal count in swimming, I think we have done quite well over the years.

Tim

Splain this to me Lucy: if both those guys were sooooo bad why were they still on the team?
Why the sudden OUTRAGE because of a facebook picture of them posing with a couple guns in a gun shop?
Does holding a gun = idiot in your world? That's what it sounds like.

Evidently all that other bad behavior wasn't enough to get them kicked off the Olympic team but posing with a gun is.


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The Sydney Daily Telegraph was among the Aussie newspapers to question the decision of the young men. On its Twitter account, the newspaper asked, "Are you offended by this photograph of Nick D'Arcy and Kenrick Monk in a US gun shop?"
If people are "OFFENDED" by a picture of two men holding shotguns and a pistol in a California gun shop, then they are pussies. Simple as that.

Now I'd venture to guess that not everyone in the country is offended and so not everyone is a pussy down there, lust like not everyone here lives in frisco or the PNW ;)

sammyg2 06-10-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 6796523)
musta missed the memo on the reason for the segue and don't see the connection.

Check yer recycle bin, you prolly got my e-mails going straight to delete again.

URY914 06-10-2012 08:19 AM

Can we wrap this sidebar up and get back on topic? :rolleyes:

intakexhaust 06-10-2012 08:49 AM

What happened to common sense? I appreciate the individuals atheletic skills, but get the hell out of the courts. This is an artificial enhanced human powered device. If you permit the ruling, lets then allow a man or woman with no disabilities use artificial mechanised devices to increase results. Seriously, whats the difference? How far where will it go? Assume someday will have levitation or hyper spring soles activated and controlled by our nerves... wouldn't that be considered human powered? Or maybe that will be permitted if you lop off a toe. That guy needs to compete in his own class or go home. How about the Trannies competeing in womans events?

This whole argument by the few with disabilities and lawyers need a rude awakening. They think they're special because they don't have legs. Its ridiculous. They're just another human born into this world like everyone else, live differently like everyone else does, and decay back to nothing like everyone else does. Some just have it better than others... get over it and thats life. Oh yeh' let's harken back to a black man named Jesse Owens at the 36 Olympics in Berlin that Hitler compared him to a Jaguar and not human, but he didn't argue against it.

Joe Bob 06-10-2012 08:57 AM

Have you seen the CBS video interview? It changed my mind when I did. Click on the link above.

URY914 06-10-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 6796599)
Have you seen the CBS video interview? It changed my mind when I did. Click on the link above.

Watched it. Wonderful story. Doesn't change my mind or the issue for me.

Seahawk 06-10-2012 12:28 PM

No. Great story, no doubt a great person.

Odd that the Casey Martin issue may help: The Supreme Court ruled decisively today that Casey Martin, the disabled golfer who has been battling the PGA Tour over its walking rule for the last four years, has the legal right to ride in a golf cart during tournament play.

GOLF - GOLF - Disabled Golfer May Use a Cart On the PGA Tour, Justices Affirm - NYTimes.com

LeeH 06-10-2012 12:34 PM

I'm leaning toward "no" on this.

What does a calf/foot/shoe weigh? Does he not end up with a weight advantage over the whole athletes? Like the rotating mass of a wheel affects a car's acceleration, wouldn't he have the ability to take faster strides due to the light weight of the carbon fiber?

cashflyer 06-10-2012 12:42 PM

If he is allowed to compete, his score should be ..... handicapped.

Joe Bob 06-10-2012 12:51 PM

He's not setting any records, he's barely fast enough to qualify for his 3rd world country's team, he's not likely to medal....he'll simply be footnote in history. Sheesh.....


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