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vash 06-09-2012 01:22 PM

do you think the BMI index for men is very "ambitious"?
 
damn..at my height..i need to weigh 170 lbs.

that it light!! i would be waif-like! on the bright side, i would look good in Banana Republic clothing..:) fabulous!

opinions?

vash 06-09-2012 01:24 PM

hmmm..maybe you skinny fit guys dont need to reply to this thread. :D

peppy 06-09-2012 01:31 PM

I agree the BMI for me is pretty much unobtainable. I am currently obese.

widgeon13 06-09-2012 01:50 PM

6' 1" @ 185 = 24.4, just below overweight. At 170 I'd feel skinny.

aigel 06-09-2012 02:13 PM

Of course every fatarse will claim they have an athletic build and that the BMI doesn't apply to them. I think it is a useful tool and if you are overweight on it, you should lose weight to get to normal or at least to the lower overweight scale.

The US has become so fat, it is unbelievable. I looked at a disney book from the 60s with a picture of the people at the entrance. There wasn't a single fat person in it. They all looked tall and lean.

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BReif61 06-09-2012 02:36 PM

6' 1" @ 235lbs. Apparently I am obese. According to Aigel I am a fatarse. And to lose weight to get to "normal" region I would basically have to undo years of going to the gym.

oilcan 06-09-2012 02:39 PM

If you have to ask- give it up.

Hard-Deck 06-09-2012 02:40 PM

I am 5'7", which gives me 176# by Army standards. I weigh 167# - 18% body fat and I feel overweight. BMI = 27 and I still feel fat/overweight. I can run 1 mi in 6min flat, 2 mi in 14:15, 3 mi in 23:10. My cholesterol is at 190. I believe genetics is the overwheliming fact. Each person has their norm.

Hard-Deck 06-09-2012 02:43 PM

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I looked at a disney book from the 60s with a picture of the people at the entrance. There wasn't a single fat person in it. They all looked tall and lean. <br>
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john70t 06-09-2012 02:43 PM

And animal growth hormones, second hand antibiotics, and natural animal stress reactions has nothing to do with those statistics...
That would be blaming someone else.

D-cups in 13yo girls is completely natural.

Carry on.

HardDrive 06-09-2012 03:21 PM

BMI is extremely counter productive.

Hugh R 06-09-2012 03:50 PM

A BMI calculator says I should lose 5-10 lbs. My belt and my jeans agree. Its tough when you travel a lot.

944Larry 06-09-2012 04:03 PM

according to the Dr that did my last physical, i am "morbidly obese". Of course, after the exam he told me about a good eat place.

azasadny 06-09-2012 05:05 PM

BMI is just one measurement. The most valid one is "how do you feel at the weight you're at" as well as "is your Dr happy with the weight you're at" and my favorite, "do you make excuses for the weight you're at?"...

944Larry 06-09-2012 06:39 PM

"do you make excuses for the weight you're at?"...

Yep-I love to eat!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

jyl 06-09-2012 06:44 PM

5' 11" 186 lb
BMI 25.9 "overweight"
I think that is about right, hence I'm vainly participating in the challenge sticky.

stomachmonkey 06-09-2012 07:26 PM

Weight is a pretty good indicator of other issues that when taken together ='s not good.

Weight is the easiest measure of general health.

http://www.auntrecipes.com/wp-conten.../BMI-Chart.png

Family history of diabetes and excess weight, especially weight carried around the middle, are strong risk factors for developing type 2 diabetes. Losing weight greatly reduces your chances for type 2 diabetes and can help bring your blood sugar under control if you already have type 2 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes can be treated with diet, exercise, and oral prescription medications but may require insulin shots.

It's no joke, get to your proper weight.

sc_rufctr 06-09-2012 07:27 PM

I'm fit but I would have to loose another 20 pounds before I'm at my correct height for weight for my BMI.
The things is I don't know we're that 20 pounds would come from. :confused:

I'm short and stocky.

theFONZ 06-09-2012 09:00 PM

5'10" and 175 here, and the Air Force considers me overweight. I guess my 8 mile run in the mountains with a 1000 foot vertical rise followed by some rock climbing this morning wasn't good enough. I also should do two crossfit workouts per day since one obviously isn't cutting it.

Oh, and yes, BMI is crap (unless you are fat).

Jim Bremner 06-09-2012 10:00 PM

If I was at my old Height of 6'2" vs my post back break Height of 6' 1/4" I would be "Healthy" at my new 190# weight. Of course prior to breaking my back I weighted in at 180

u3b3rg33k 06-09-2012 11:48 PM

According to that chart, I could gain 15lbs and still be "healthy". Yeah, right.

I need another 15lbs of weight like I need another hole in the head. Now if it was all muscle, it might be different, but that's not happening any time soon.

panos 06-10-2012 12:22 AM

If you are computing BMI on one of the many systems that just account for your weight and height on the computer, then many of those give you flawed answers. They are made for the "average" person which in many ways each individual is far from average. Many times it can be deemed unhealthy to be at the weight stated by the "BMI calculator". Until you go to the doctor and he measures you out properly there really is not much to worry about!

on2wheels52 06-10-2012 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u3b3rg33k (Post 6796179)
According to that chart, I could gain 15lbs and still be "healthy". Yeah, right.

I need another 15lbs of weight like I need another hole in the head. Now if it was all muscle, it might be different, but that's not happening any time soon.

About the same for me, I weigh what I did in high school.
I don't have much of a sweet tooth and quit eating when I'm full.
Jim

wdfifteen 06-10-2012 03:22 AM

That chart is nuts. When I was running I was 200 lbs. At 6'1" that made me overweight according to the chart, but I looked awful and people were asking me if I was sick. No more running and I'm at 220. That would make me obese, but I'm staying at this weight. I look and feel better than at 200 lbs.

Outback Porsche 06-10-2012 03:22 AM

Bullchit mass index - when I was in the airforce, I weighed in at 72kg, I'm 175cm. BMI had me at borderline obese. I had less than 10 percent body fat. As I said, it's absolute BS.

jyl 06-10-2012 07:25 AM

Well, high BMI just says you have a lot of mass for your height. If that mass is honest-to-God muscle, that's fine. As long as you aren't fooling yourself . . . anything that you can't flex to be hard as a - well, "rock" is a bit exaggerated, how about hard as a book? A paperback book - is fat.

ronster 06-10-2012 07:44 AM

Are those weights before or after a big crap?:D

u3b3rg33k 06-10-2012 09:40 AM

Given that it's the BMI, I'm gonna go with "during"

epbrown 06-10-2012 10:11 AM

A buddy of mine says there is talk of revamping BMI to a simply pass/fail measure: you waistline just above the navel should be half your height or less.

Before we throw the baby out with the bathwater, I'm curious how well the current numbers fit non-US populations. Americans, despite obesity being so common that we've made weight loss a spectator sport, always loophole this issue when you talk statistics. Everyone's heavy with muscle, have a glandular or other medical problem, or got bad genes. Nationally, we're fat; individually, we're sick or misunderstood.

flatbutt 06-10-2012 10:29 AM

5'5" 150 lbs and it says I'm overweight. PS I have a body comp of 12%.:rolleyes:

Joe Bob 06-10-2012 10:38 AM

I'm 10 lbs overweight....I can live with that.

Tim Hancock 06-10-2012 11:11 AM

At 45, I find myself starting to putting on weight. I am 5'8" and 170 lbs. I intend to get back down to 160-165 this summer by eating fewer late night snacks and exercising a bit. I don't want to end up being a fat arse the rest of my life.

svandamme 06-10-2012 11:13 AM

I'm 5'11 @ 195lbs i don't disagree that i'm overweight..
i want to drop 40 lbs and turn belly fat into muscles
My goal is to be @ 23 in the above chart..

Moses 06-10-2012 12:07 PM

I'm just two pounds overweight. Easy fix. I'll get circumcised. :D:D:D

genrex 06-10-2012 12:50 PM

Holy moly, I think your Man Card must be laminated!

I'm just trimming my nose hairs...

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jyl 06-10-2012 12:55 PM

Let's not forget that Moses fly fishes for grizzlies.

Schrup 06-10-2012 04:40 PM

I just had a Bod Pod test last week. I'm 5'9.5" 164lb, body fat at is 8.6%. BMI is a tough standard, especially for folks that are big boned. It has taken years of diet and exercise to get down from 235lbs.

Joe Bob 06-10-2012 04:41 PM

Oi.....good job.

lendaddy 06-10-2012 04:49 PM

Americans (especially) have been so well nourished over the last several generations that our frames are simply more robust than they used to be. We have wider shoulders, more broad hips, etc... I don't believe the charts account for any of this, but I also don't think they are that far off for it.. This is my theory anyway.

VINMAN 06-10-2012 04:51 PM

That charts a load of crap. Theres way too many variables..

5' 7" 160lbs 30w


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