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500cc chemical release into air...

Right, todays question

If 500cc of a chemical was released into the air and it was evenly distributed in a concentration of 10 PPM up to a height of 2 meters, how far would it potentially contaminate?

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what is the wind profile

AND, define "contaminate" - is one molecule included

since you said "chemical" and not "biological warfare agent" I guess we are pretty safe over here in the US...
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PURE 500CC X 1,000,000 = 500 MILLION CC /10 =50 MILLION CC OF AIR

wind defines where it goes
but volume is unaffected by direction
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Definitely chemical and I mention 10 ppm because that is the level before you smell it and know its there.

Curse you adding in wind profile

Lets just say if the chemical could be evenly distributed (but to a height of 2 meters), what area could be covered?

Oh and humming birds are excluded from the area
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Are we to assume the ground is perfectly flat?
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Is this an African chemical, or European?
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Perfectly flat. I think I have an answer but it seems too small.
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and if this chemical drifted through...a shrubbery....?
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and if this chemical drifted through...a shrubbery....?
Ok, I surrender.
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Not you too Rick? Lousy ....

Any chance a mod could delete this thread?

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Curse you adding in wind profile
here is a simple start, assuming laminar flow





if not laminar the I suggest you use eddy correlation techniques, just like us micro-climatologists do


And.... it can contaminate an area al levels lower than you can smell.

or... you may be able to smell it at levels lower than will contaminate an area...

or... it could have synergistic interaction effects with other chemicals present in some areas but not in others... or...
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or we could just use 10 ppm as the contamination level, assume a simple diffusion model and solve for the steady-state value

I have not (had) to do that since I was the single forlorn biology graduate student stuck in a classroom full of math grad. students in a math course on "Muddling Natural Systems."
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