Did not pass code...

[Porsche-O-Phile]

There is no shortage of idiots in this world, sadly.

You could always just put a ramp too. Might be nicer and a selling point later if it's compliant (accessible entry). Just something to consider.

[scottmandue]

Yes, looks like they just tacked on a pre-fab stair...

And it looks like it could be done with just two stairs, not sure of the best way to modify the existing stair to do that.

[VINMAN]

Just curious,What is the height of the deck at that point?

[madmmac]

I tripped just looking at it.

Elevator....or an escalator as a minimum.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I think you need to raise the deck

best answer!

[GWN7]

What's with the overlaping 2 X 6 to the left side of the step? They couldn't hide the fill piece under the stairs?

[Tim Hancock]

If I tripped and fell because of that, I would blame no one but myself. If my mother or grandmother tripped and fell because of it, I would blame them for not paying attention. I hate what society has become..... Way too many laws on the books infringing on our freedom to do what we want on property we own.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

If I tripped and fell because of that, I would blame no one but myself. If my mother or grandmother tripped and fell because of it, I would blame them for not paying attention. I hate what society has become..... Way too many laws on the books infringing on our freedom to do what we want on property we own.

You'd still blame yourself if your grandma broke her hip stepping off your sloppy step install. I also take issue with codes and do not think this should be anyone's business but the owner's. That said, I like to build things right and safe - out of my own motivation.

G

[look 171]

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO

and.....................you FORGOT THE AUTO FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM!

the handheld uscg UL listed fire extinguishers..........(4)


and a heart defib system wall mounted 4ft above floor level...........


and ANTI SKID 3m matting to steps to avoid spinouts and slippage during rain or snow!



man im telling you this project will get you sued into the stone age in no time!

sheesh!


man i almost forgot the safety helmet rack/the safety vest rack/safety eyewear rack/the safety eye wash station/and the safety shoe rack!

We now have a Green Inspection here. No kidding, not in green font.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

If I tripped and fell because of that, I would blame no one but myself. If my mother or grandmother tripped and fell because of it, I would blame them for not paying attention. I hate what society has become..... Way too many laws on the books infringing on our freedom to do what we want on property we own.

When I worked at the Grand Canyon, we had a set of steps leading to the kitchen of the El Tovar hotel that was fourteen steps high. The top step was four inchs higher than the rest of the steps, and the steps were painted black, with safety treads over them. People who used those steps every day were known to trip on that top step, and several people went down the steps face first. Guess who fixed that ?

As a carpenter for more than 35 years, I would NEVER build a set of stairs that were not perfect, and I happen to know that you would not either.

Rules are for the rest of the jerks who would not GAF if someone else's Grandmother took a header and broke her neck. Cops and ER people hate drunks because why ? Could it be for the same reason building inspectors hate hack carpenters ?

Nobody intends to trip on bad stairs, but sooner or later someone does.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

If I tripped and fell because of that, I would blame no one but myself. If my mother or grandmother tripped and fell because of it, I would blame them for not paying attention. I hate what society has become..... Way too many laws on the books infringing on our freedom to do what we want on property we own.

You would never build it that way nor would you accept it had you paid someone to do it.

I've had my issues with code enforcement but I understand it's there to protect those who simply don't know from those who should but are too lazy to do the right thing.

I don't believe OP told the contracter, "you know it's my property and I WANT you to build me ****ty stairs."

[RWebb]

maybe I should post a pic of my stairs... they don't meet code either

[Tim Hancock]

I do not have an issue with the OP being upset with the quality of work he PAID for, but I truly despise that govt has anything to say about how someone chooses to build something on their own property. As far as getting hurt by tripping over something..... well I still place blame on the person who tripped and not the homeowner. I hate the fact that homeowners can be held accountable for having ice on their sidewalks in the middle of winter or for kids drowning in their pools or getting hurt jumping on a trampoline in the back yard. When I was growing up if I hurt myself at a friends house, I simply went to the ER and our health insurance covered it.... Now, typically the homeowner would get sued due to my error.

Everything now gets blamed on someone else. Spill hot coffee, sue the restaurant. Wreck your car, sue the automaker. Dive into water that is too deep, sue the homeowner. Ski out of bounds and get hurt, sue the ski resort.

The concept of taking personal responsibilty for ones actions is lost in todays society.

Rant over

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

If I tripped and fell because of that, I would blame no one but myself. If my mother or grandmother tripped and fell because of it, I would blame them for not paying attention. I hate what society has become..... Way too many laws on the books infringing on our freedom to do what we want on property we own.

Stairs are an automatic function just like many things you do from writing cursive while thinking your thoughts or steering the car while noticing the other things around you that you should be aware of.

A short step in a series of stairs is not something you have have to think about. Remember, the human eye cannot see shape or distance. What it can see is color and size. Shape is determined by the variations in color due to light reflection off the shape. Distance is a function of size and how you focus your two eyes; the parallax. Ask someone with only one eye like my dad. From the top, all those stairs would have looked the same to him.

Tim, you can be unreasonable at times. At least my dad would have thought so.

[island911]

yes yes. . U should never have to think...

What if you call it 'art' ? ...I mean, that Guggenheim . ..someone might feel unbalanced.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Zeke

the human eye cannot see shape or distance.

unh... no

in fact, the eye has shape detector circuits built right into it (i.e. before the brain)

going up or down stairs does become routinized with practice tho

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

The concept of taking personal responsibilty for ones actions is lost in todays society.

I agree completely! And I hope everyone with dangerous stairs on their property will step up and take responsibility for them.

Rant over

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by RWebb

And I hope everyone with dangerous stairs on their property will step up and take responsibility for them.

Don't cling too hard to your hope (and change), about the time you do Tabs will shove you down the stairs.

[RWebb]

Funny, but... Don't cling too hard to your hope for better sentence structure (and change the one you posted).

[dad911]

Those stairs aren't even close to IRC. They wouldn't even make code around here in the 70's.

Even height risers, less than 8-1/8". Need a guard on both sides if more than 3 risers. Graspable rail on 1 side. No open risers.