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turbocarrera 07-04-2012 08:53 AM

We have now found the missing cornerstone of particle physics.
 
CERN

This is very exciting!

pavulon 07-04-2012 09:51 AM

ok!!

Will all you pointy-headed types please elaborate in layman's terminology (or as best you're able) as to the significance and everyday relevance of this proposed (for now) discovery?

fred cook 07-04-2012 10:44 AM

Higgs Particle
 
Basically it is belived to be what make gravity "work" allowing molecules to form into solids. Without the Higgs particle/force/??? molecules would not slow down enough to form a mass.

lane912 07-04-2012 10:49 AM

or the thing that makes the math work out-

RWebb 07-04-2012 02:03 PM

it sure is a porky lil' devil

Flieger 07-04-2012 02:08 PM

So the particle that is responsible for mass has a mass itself -- I guess that makes sense. And if that makes sense then I suppose it would follow that the thing that causes mass would have a lot of it.

widgeon13 07-04-2012 03:45 PM

Will it cure cancer?

pavulon 07-04-2012 04:27 PM

how many in a black audi wagon?

HardDrive 07-04-2012 04:29 PM

Is it faster than a well setup 944?

genrex 07-04-2012 04:34 PM

^ That's inconceivable!

dw1 07-04-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 6839548)
Will it cure cancer?

Actually, yes.

It is a more significant step in that direction that you might realize.

The breakthrough gives chemists (and after all, what is chemistry but physics) a tool that could allow direct "targeting" of atomic and molecular interactions that form the basis of the unwanted biochemical interactions that cause cancer cells to be created and multiply.

This is not science fiction, as research institution are working on next generation medical treatments based more and more on the actual structure of matter.

P-chem & O-chem have come a long way since I was in school.

stealthn 07-04-2012 05:38 PM

"hints of.." is still theoretical physics, back to the linear accelerator...


Common, do you think they would have said "we found jack" considering the time effort money that went into CeRn?

krichard 07-04-2012 05:48 PM

I hope this leads to us actually getting transporters! I'm tired of having to drive and fly everywhere I want to go....

MumfordLa 07-04-2012 06:08 PM

it sure is a porky lil' devil
http://www.onfish.info/h.jpghttp://www.onfish.info/d.jpg

vash 07-04-2012 07:39 PM

is this the thing that got all the catholics, (and that albino hit man) all hot and bothered in that demons and dragons movie (starring tom hanks)?

RWebb 07-04-2012 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 6839397)
it sure is a porky lil' devil

hmmm

Flieger 07-04-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 6839861)
is this the thing that got all the catholics, (and that albino hit man) all hot and bothered in that demons and dragons movie (starring tom hanks)?

:confused:

Flieger 07-04-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 6839862)
hmmm

Nevermind the spam bot.

red-beard 07-04-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krichard (Post 6839728)
I hope this leads to us actually getting transporters! I'm tired of having to drive and fly everywhere I want to go....

Doubtful, but it might get us artificial gravity and anti-gravity!

RWebb 07-04-2012 07:57 PM

how many years until they get that sucka up to full power?

then we may know which of the 5 it found

Mothy 07-04-2012 08:00 PM

A Higgs boson walks into a church.

"We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest.

"But without me, how can you have mass?" asks the particle.

Flieger 07-04-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mothy (Post 6839892)
A Higgs boson walks into a church.

"We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest.

"But without me, how can you have mass?" asks the particle.

Ugh...

:D

Rick Lee 07-04-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mothy (Post 6839892)
A Higgs boson walks into a church.

"We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest.

"But without me, how can you have mass?" asks the particle.

Werner Heisenberg got pulled over for speeding one day. Cop says, "Do you have any idea how fast you were going?? Heisenberg replied, "No, but at least I know where I am."

Flieger 07-04-2012 08:20 PM

These are funny, keep them coming. :)

Mothy 07-04-2012 11:07 PM

The Higgs became known as the "God particle" because it is deemed to exist everywhere, determines the nature of matter but is agonisingly hard to nail down.

Seen on a T-shirt: "I finally found the Higgs boson - it was behind the couch the whole time"

BREAKING: Apple has patent on Higgs Boson particle; cease-and-desist letter sent to CERN and the Universe.

For lovers of Cricket: God, out for a quark, bowled Higgs, caught Boson.

O.M.HB

It cost 10billion dollars to find the God particle, what's it going to cost to find the rest of Him/Her?

A Higgs boson walks into a bar and orders a drink. It's about to pay and the barman refuses, saying "For you; no charge"

Will the Church allow two Higgs Bosons to marry? They may be neutrons and not able to make sub particles.

Higgs-Boson discovery proves nothing really matters until you've had a bang...

Has anybody asked Sheldon for his thought on this???

livi 07-05-2012 01:33 AM

Excellent! Very fascinating!


I mean it. :)

Chocaholic 07-05-2012 03:14 AM

Really interesting. Too bad Einstein isn't around to comment. He struggled for years to document his "unified" theory. Perhaps this was the missing piece.

petrolhead611 07-05-2012 04:32 AM

Higgs Bosons for sale on eBay already

red-beard 07-05-2012 06:04 AM

HIGGS BOSON HANDMADE PLUSH SUBATOMIC PARTICLE

http://www.bioclinictec.com/media/1/...1b961bab_m.jpg

island911 07-05-2012 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mothy (Post 6840070)
The Higgs became known as the "God particle" because it is deemed to exist everywhere, determines the nature of matter but is agonisingly hard to nail down.

Seen on a T-shirt: "I finally found the Higgs boson - it was behind the couch the whole time"..

iirc, Before that our Jeff Higgins found one in the shower drain.

FLYGEEZER 07-05-2012 06:27 AM

Is there something beyond the orgasm?

red-beard 07-05-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 6840336)
iirc, Before that our Jeff Higgens found one in the shower drain.

That was a Higgens Boson?

pavulon 07-05-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petrolhead611 (Post 6840210)
Higgs Bosons for sale on eBay already

I sold 4 on craigslist last week. I had to take the serial numbers off them first... but once that was done...they were gone:)

kach22i 07-05-2012 11:48 AM

From the link found in the original press release.

CERN Press Release
Quote:

The Standard Model describes the fundamental particles from which we, and every visible thing in the universe, are made, and the forces acting between them. All the matter that we can see, however, appears to be no more than about 4% of the total. A more exotic version of the Higgs particle could be a bridge to understanding the 96% of the universe that remains obscure.
I watched the Angels & Demons movie two days ago, and read the book about six years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels_%26_Demons_(film)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...and_demons.jpg

Those jokes were pretty good, thanks.

The elusive particle: 5 Implications of finding Higgs Boson
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/07/05/elusive-particle-5-implications-finding-higgs-boson/#ixzz1zmP2yOMm

RWebb 07-05-2012 12:03 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1341518611.jpg

sammyg2 07-05-2012 01:33 PM

"Yo mama's so fat, she tore a hole in the Higgs field!"

Brando 07-05-2012 01:53 PM

Let's not jump to conclusions... Even the researchers at CERN said they did not discover the Higgs-Boson particle, but something that behaved like it.

RWebb 07-05-2012 02:15 PM

so maybe it was really a Higgs-Bosun particle?







































http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1341526530.jpg

pavulon 07-05-2012 02:31 PM

ahhh...a subatomic impostor!! Never trust things you can't see with your own eyes.

kang 07-05-2012 02:32 PM

I find this stuff fascinating.

With this discovery, they're starting to talk about what happened before the big bang:

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

From my layman's understanding, it's not the particle itself that gives everything mass, it's the Higgs field. The field is like syrup. As other particles (protons, electrons, etc) travel through it, they get dragged down. Some particles don't interact with this field at all, they are the particles with no mass.

The particle itself is just a localized excitation of the field. In the LHC, the field got excited via the collisions they caused. The field is everywhere, even if there are no particles present.

The electro-magnetic field is similar. It's everywhere. A localized excitation of the field is a photon, but the field is everywhere.

I think of a photon traveling through the EM field like a ripple travels through water. The water remains motionless, yet the ripple travels.

Like I said, fascinating.


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