Internet Cafe Robbery, Tables Turned

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by krystar

attempted robbery with a bb gun is still an aggravated robbery with firearm charge.

if it looks like a gun and you were using it as a gun and the people you pointed it at thought it was a gun, it's a gun.

i had a kid try to rob me in parking lot with a bb gun. he still got charged as if the thing was a real gun.

It's also grounds for responding with deadly force. Really bad idea to use toy or bb guns for anything other than their intended use.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by krystar

attempted robbery with a bb gun is still an aggravated robbery with firearm charge.

if it looks like a gun and you were using it as a gun and the people you pointed it at thought it was a gun, it's a gun.

i had a kid try to rob me in parking lot with a bb gun. he still got charged as if the thing was a real gun.

Yep. I've had a fake gun pointed at me from a short distance and it looked real. It looked like a Glock or any other black SA pistol and in the heat of the moment, it never even enters your mind whether it's real or not. Luckily for the guy pointing it, I was not armed or I would have done my best to shoot him.

Using a fake gun is a sign that you should definitely not be allowed to reproduce, and it needs to be prevented by any means necessary. So does using a real one in a crime, so it's *6 to one/half dozen to the other*.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by speeder

Well, he shot them several times from close range and they didn't die

I wonder how many times he actually hit one of them...

JR

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by javadog

I wonder how many times he actually hit one of them...

JR

That's another reason to carry something with stopping power. He is legally liable for every bullet that leaves his gun's muzzle. If a bullet stops anywhere other than inside a bad guy, the good guy can be in very hot water. There was a totally justified police shooting here a while back where the cop shot the hostage taker with a .223, killing him. But the bullet passed through him and wounded the hostage too. Guess who got stuck with that bill.

[Jim Bremner]

3 hits

1 on perp with bat in the arm

2 on the perp with gun. 1 in left butt cheek. 1 in right hip.

I saw somewhere where it said the good guy was a retired cop.

Unless he hit the perps with a 50 cal the hits are not decent hits in the central mass or good head shots.

[speeder]

Retired cop is believable, he did that like it wasn't his first time at the rodeo. Age doesn't mean squat. My dad is a frail 80 y.o. and he'd still bust a cap or 3 in some thug. Back when he was about 45 years old, he caught some large burgular rummaging around his office suite. My dad was coming up from the bar they had in the basement, so he was faded and it was late evening. The old man tiptoed into his office and retrieved his 44 magnum Dirty Harry gun and confronted the guy. Had him spread-out on the floor taking orders when one of my old man's buddies heard the commotion and came upstairs. His buddy said that he thought my old man was yelling at me by the tone of his voice. lol...

[gamin]

Just heard on the news that the authorities are looking at filing charges against the old guy. Looks like he shot the wrong people. I have very little respect for any part of the judicial system. There are some exceptions

[Hydrocket]

Originally Posted by vash

i think any caliber you can shoot comfortably and reliably is a good round.

^^This. I think there is a "bigger is better" mentality, particularly in firearms.

I remember people from a forum used to give me grief because the .410 the wifey had for home defense was "too small". Until I showed the data that a slug equipped .410 has significantly more muzzle energy than a .45, and darn near identical to a .357 magnum....overkill for home defense, actually.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by gamin

Just heard on the news that the authorities are looking at filing charges against the old guy. Looks like he shot the wrong people. I have very little respect for any part of the judicial system. There are some exceptions

Latest news says not...

Florida man who shot suspects during Internet cafe robbery will not face charges | Fox News