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red-beard 08-04-2012 05:46 PM

Not getting involved!!!
 
I was approached about a week or two back by one of my neighbors. He knows that I know a bit about firearms.

One of their friends is getting divorced. This is a hostile divorce and the husband does not know. He is on a golf getaway and she is moving out this weekend. The papers are to be served on Monday. According to my neighbor, this guy is a jerk, violent, etc. I have never met either the husband or wife.

I guess the wife is a friend of my neighbor's wife. And the husband has some firearms. The wife is concerned he is going to come home, find her gone, go into a rage and then get the guns out and come after her. Supposedly the lawyer suggested something be done about the firearms.

My buddy wanted me to go over to the house and help make sure the firearms were unloaded, maybe hide the firearms in the house and possibly take the ammo. I declined. I don't know these people and do not wish to get involved.

I would think that his firearms being 'missing' would further infuriate him, as would missing ammo. If he is into firearms, and he does have the money, he could quickly replace everything. I also think that if the lawyer thinks this is a good idea, he should be arranging this, not having some friends do it.

My buddy called today and said this is the day. I went over my thoughts. I told him I didn't want to get involved. I also said he shouldn't get involved.

I think I talked my buddy out of being involved. I mean, what happens if the kids say something? They could say it was my buddy who hid the guns or took the ammo. If this guy is crazy, he could come after my buddy. Maybe he would think my buddy was involved with his wife. Who knows?

My wife thinks it could also be another neighbor pushing about the firearms. Again, I'm not sure.

The only thing I would have done is show my buddy how to remove a magazine, from a similar firearm at my place and then operate the action to remove/check for a round in the chamber. By that point, I think he was convinced the whole thing was a bad idea.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

Noah930 08-04-2012 05:49 PM

Wouldn't get involved, either. Even having your buddy mess around with potentially loaded firearms if he has no firearms experience could be disaster.

Best thing (if what you've been told is true), is for the battered wife to get out and get someplace safe (i.e. somewhere where the angry loaded husband won't find her).

944Larry 08-04-2012 05:53 PM

Red-I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. No good can possibly come of this for you.

masraum 08-04-2012 05:53 PM

I think you're correct. Hiding the ammo is completely useless when you can get more at Wal-Mart. Hiding the guns isn't much different when you can buy a gun at any number of stores in thirty minutes or less. The best thing the wife could do is to be careful and be ready to call the cops, maybe keeps friends close.

HardDrive 08-04-2012 05:56 PM

God no. She needs to GTF away from him, and get a restraining order on the spot.

red-beard 08-04-2012 05:57 PM

From my understanding, she is moving out of state with the kids.

stomachmonkey 08-04-2012 06:11 PM

I think you did the exact right thing.

pavulon 08-04-2012 06:12 PM

Does Texas allow her to move with kids without consent? If it's as it seems, this has time bomb written all over it.

trekkor 08-04-2012 06:15 PM

Maybe delete this thread. Just in case he sees it...



KT

azasadny 08-04-2012 06:15 PM

I don't see what could possibly go wrong with this...

You are wise not to get involved in this...

vash 08-04-2012 06:44 PM

oooo...anything good for sale? colt python cheap?

red-beard 08-04-2012 06:46 PM

Not getting involved...

ODDJOB UNO 08-04-2012 06:49 PM

i think someone should grab all of this guys ammo..............and all of us go shooting.



and someone should paint his wall BABY POO YELLOW!



another happy ending.

red-beard 08-04-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO (Post 6893996)
and someone should paint his wall BABY POO YELLOW!

I'm not sure if he is a "Clown not Attorney"...

ODDJOB UNO 08-04-2012 06:56 PM

well it sounds like hes gonna have to hire a "clown attorney" after wifey serves him papers.


dont get involved.............and be gone while papers served.

URY914 08-04-2012 07:02 PM

Don't touch a man's wife, his truck or his guns.

You did right.

vash 08-04-2012 07:04 PM

yup..stay far away.

my neighbors got in a ugly separation..i dont even look in that direction anymore :D i am not picking sides.

red-beard 08-04-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO (Post 6894016)
well it sounds like hes gonna have to hire a "clown attorney" after wifey serves him papers.


dont get involved.............and be gone while papers served.

We have a big neighborhood. I live in one of the corners, this couple lives in the middle. And I don't know them...So easy to be not involved.

9dreizig 08-04-2012 07:24 PM

James DON"T GET INVOLVED (anymore that posting it on a bulletin board ;-)

bell 08-04-2012 07:56 PM

Who's to say the wife isn't the crazy one in that situation?
Either way....stay the he'll out of it lol

Joe Bob 08-04-2012 08:15 PM

What if you were the husband? Two sides to every divorce.....

Danimal16 08-04-2012 08:24 PM

Yeah, the wife can get the lawyer to take care of this. That is the red flag I see. Girls lie too.

Jim Bremner 08-04-2012 08:59 PM

So not cool on her part.

AFC-911 08-04-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 6894023)
Don't touch a man's wife, his truck or his guns.

The first one is tough if she's hot...The last two are easy to do.

Bill Douglas 08-04-2012 09:45 PM

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There should be a fourth person called do nothing.

aigel 08-04-2012 09:56 PM

If the lady is worried about the guy going postal, all she has to do is leave to an undisclosed location until things cool down. Sounds a lot more like she's trying to get the guy real good and hurt him where it hurts most (his toys). I have seen it often, that the wives go after cars, boats, MCs, planes etc, just to piss of the guy. Not because they have any use for it or get any decent financial value.

It takes two to tango. Definitely stay out of this. Go to a stranger's house and clean out his guns!? That's insane. Why is your buddy even involved?

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Rick Lee 08-04-2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 6894204)
Definitely stay out of this. Go to a stranger's house and clean out his guns!? That's insane. Why is your buddy even involved?

I'm not prone to violence, but I'm always armed, even outside the house. And, if I came home to find some strangers in my house trying to steal my guns, well, that wouldn't end well.

Cases like this one are a good reason to have a good gun safe and a few stored outside the home.

sc_rufctr 08-05-2012 12:05 AM

Let the cops handle it.

rnln 08-05-2012 01:52 AM

oh man, the wife is running a way with his kids? The man will have mental problem the rest of his life. The wife, her friends, your friends, all are being funny. They think he doesn't know how to go buy ammo?
You did the right thing.
Nothing hurts the man more than stealing his kids. Stay out of it.

gsxrken 08-05-2012 02:16 AM

And any man worked up to the point of murdering his children's mother sure doesn't need a firearm to do it. Hopefully your friend stayed away too.
Prayers for all involved.

red-beard 08-05-2012 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rnln (Post 6894296)
oh man, the wife is running a way with his kids? The man will have mental problem the rest of his life. The wife, her friends, your friends, all are being funny. They think he doesn't know how to go buy ammo?
You did the right thing.
Nothing hurts the man more than stealing his kids. Stay out of it.

That was one of the points I made. He can go get ammo in 20 minutes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 6894265)
Let the cops handle it.

The police will not get involved in something like this. We do have a Deputy Sheriff (Omar) that lives in the neighborhood. He might do something like this while wearing his uniform.

I'll check with my buddy today and see if he was stupid.

red-beard 08-05-2012 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 6893908)
Does Texas allow her to move with kids without consent? If it's as it seems, this has time bomb written all over it.

Possession is nine tenths of the law!

But, I'm not sure. My ex-wife could move anywhere she wanted in Massachusetts without going back to court. Move the kid out of state and you had to take it to court. I definitely do not know what the Texas law says.

Well, I do know that if he doesn't pay his child support, he can't have a Concealed Handgun License. That is as much as I know about kids and divorce in Texas...

drcoastline 08-05-2012 05:24 AM

Sounds to me the wife is the problem. Moving out while he is away, going to blind side the guy with divorce papers, telling everybody he's violent, hide his guns, empty the house so he comes home to nothing, taking the kids out of state so he doesnt know where they are. She's trying to make this guy go postal. I should say the scum bag lawyer is trying to make him go crazy. It would be interesting to know if she maxed the credit cards and cleaned out the bank accounts also.

The wife/attorney is the POS from what I am reading.

Oh yeah should probably add. I bet your buddy is getting his information from his wife who is talking to the wife that is moving out.

sc_rufctr 08-05-2012 05:35 AM

If your courts are anything like ours they're used to people lying during a divorce.

The worst part is leaving the state with the kids. I had to watch mine walk away from me at Sydney airport. I flew over with them and handed them off to my ex and her BF. That was one of the hardest things I've ever done.

But It turned out great for me. A year later almost to the day they flew back and my ex stayed in Sydney. :D
That was 8 years ago and all three of my kids are doing great.

Meanwhile my ex moved back to Adelaide 3 months ago and she's desperately trying to reconnect with the kids. That isn't going so well. My girls are 22 and 23 and my son is 16.

Just love your kids and be the best dad you can be. The rest doesn't matter. You can recover financially. And she'll have to live with her lies to her children about their father.

Geoz1 08-05-2012 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 6894379)
Sounds to me the wife is the problem. Moving out while he is away, going to blind side the guy with divorce papers, telling everybody he's violent, hide his guns, empty the house so he comes home to nothing, taking the kids out of state so he doesnt know where they are. She's trying to make this guy go postal. I should say the scum bag lawyer is trying to make him go crazy. It would be interesting to know if she maxed the credit cards and cleaned out the bank accounts also.

The wife/attorney is the POS from what I am reading.

Oh yeah should probably add. I bet your buddy is getting his information from his wife who is talking to the wife that is moving out.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^I concur^^^^^^^^^^^^


She is looking for everyones approval. There is prob more to the story on her end.

AFC-911 08-05-2012 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 6894379)
Sounds to me the wife is the problem. Moving out while he is away, going to blind side the guy with divorce papers, telling everybody he's violent, hide his guns, empty the house so he comes home to nothing, taking the kids out of state so he doesnt know where they are. She's trying to make this guy go postal. I should say the scum bag lawyer is trying to make him go crazy. It would be interesting to know if she maxed the credit cards and cleaned out the bank accounts also.

The wife/attorney is the POS from what I am reading.

Why are you sympathizing with the guy? He could be a real douchebag for all we know.

stomachmonkey 08-05-2012 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 6894379)
Sounds to me the wife is the problem. Moving out while he is away, going to blind side the guy with divorce papers, telling everybody he's violent, hide his guns, empty the house so he comes home to nothing, taking the kids out of state so he doesnt know where they are. She's trying to make this guy go postal. I should say the scum bag lawyer is trying to make him go crazy. It would be interesting to know if she maxed the credit cards and cleaned out the bank accounts also.

The wife/attorney is the POS from what I am reading.

Oh yeah should probably add. I bet your buddy is getting his information from his wife who is talking to the wife that is moving out.

A possibility.

I came home from school one day and there was a moving truck at the house.

Mom shoved my brother and I in the car and we moved.

Not out of state but for sure my father did not know where until things cooled off.

Let's just say it was the only option.

Danimal16 08-05-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 6894379)
sounds to me the wife is the problem. Moving out while he is away, going to blind side the guy with divorce papers, telling everybody he's violent, hide his guns, empty the house so he comes home to nothing, taking the kids out of state so he doesnt know where they are. She's trying to make this guy go postal. I should say the scum bag lawyer is trying to make him go crazy. It would be interesting to know if she maxed the credit cards and cleaned out the bank accounts also.

The wife/attorney is the pos from what i am reading.

Oh yeah should probably add. I bet your buddy is getting his information from his wife who is talking to the wife that is moving out.

+1

Danimal16 08-05-2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFC-911 (Post 6894404)
Why are you sympathizing with the guy? He could be a real douchebag for all we know.

The gal could be a douche bag as well. If this guy is a problem the courts and cops would already be involved.

Where is the woman's family????

red-beard 08-05-2012 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danimal16 (Post 6894412)
Where is the woman's family????

Not in this state.

Again, I do not know any of the people personally. I am a friend of a friend's husband...


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