Let's talk about world class beers again.
 

Another forum I post in once in a while got talking about good beer places in Phoenix. Lots of us lamented there are few, and then some folks chimed in about how craft beers are so great and ours are the world's envy. Kidding me? If you like craft beer, that's fine. But I do plenty of int'l. travel and the only American beer I've ever seen in Europe is in some American-themed novelty diner or saloon, usually having to do with Route 66 nostalgia. I've seen Pabst and Budwesier in China, but all American stuff there is fashionable.


IMHO, Pilsner Urquell and Budvar (the original Budweiser from CZ) are the best. If you're into that kind of beer, then Germany and CZ are hard to beat in that area. I spent a week in the Czech Republic in May and don't recall seeing anything other than PU, Budvar and Staropramen. And I drank a LOT there every day. In Germany I tend to stay away from the big national brands and drink the local stuff. Though some of it has recently become nationally popular, so it's no longer just local.

I have never had a craft beer in the US I cared for. To me they all taste like an IPA, no matter what they call it. And I hate IPA. My default beer in the US is Stella when they don't serve anything I know is better. And I don't really love Stella, but it's ok.

As for Chinese beers in the US, I like Tsing Tao and Harbin. The few others that are available here I think are pretty light. As I type this I'm drinking Krombacher, which is pretty big in northern Germany. Last night I had two bottles of Steigl, a pilsner from Salzburg, Austria. I'm very lucky to have a huge beer dist. nearby with many great European beers for reasonable money.

Well Rick, I'm an IPA fan. But there is something to say for a good lager or pilsner. IN between IPA's, of course. Like a glass of water. Just teasin'. I like St. Pauli Girl. And Heineken. I draw the line at wheat beers, though. Abomination.

St. Bernardus Abt 12. The sheeeeat..

This is a pretty decent website for ratings, types of beer, etc..

BeerAdvocate - Respect Beer.


I had a Grolsh on the weekend. Not bad...ever have one? I think it really depends what you're eating. I prefer different beers depending on what I'm eating or snacking on.

What?! The hell you say! Boulevard Wheat, brewed just up the road in KC, is one of my favorites.

I had a beer sent down by our very own Nynor not too long ago... Definitely towards the top of my list....


And I'm sure you all will say its water, but when I can get it I like the Lazy Magnolia, Southern Pecan beer....

Spaten Optimator ... if I want to get trashed.... Chimay

Chimay, Duvel, Okochim

Love me my stouts and brown ales - newcastle, guinness, sam smith's oatmeal stout

If I'm drinking beer for taste, IPA it is. Double IPA even better. Go to beer is Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA

Some of my favs.

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Hands down the best beer in Austria, but not easy to find there.
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I'm sure I'll be burned at the stake for being an unsophisticated beer heathen, but after mowing the lawn, sitting on the lake when 100 F, or similar outside hot activity there's nothing that hits the spot like a good cheap Miller Lite.

Nothing at all wrong with that!! Man..that first sip after mowing the lawn..is there anything better in the world?? :)

All I drink at the lake house is Miller Light or Budweiser.

IIRC, Miller and Budweiser are primarily rice adjunct beers now...as is Coors.

My favorite Japanese style rice beer is Sapporo.

Cask ale. Any I dont care.

My favorite used to be a black & tan made with Newcastle and Guinness, until I realized that I could order a pint of each, and be ambidextrous.

Drinking in pubs can be very inspirational.

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I like all kinds of beer, my weakness. However, when the dust settles, my absolute favorite is Coors Banquet. Not the beer that's sat around in grocery stores in 30 paks, I buy the 16oz Talls at the small liquor stores.

Steve

73 911 T MFI Coupe, Aubergine

I learned to really like Foster's when we would come into the Australian bases in Vietnam.

Everyone needs one of these in their house. $6K. Same system Dogfish used.

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