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fastfredracing 09-03-2012 08:08 AM

I hope this doesn't catch on in the states .
 
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flatbutt 09-03-2012 08:10 AM

Oh heck I did that years ago. Of course I had 1.5 ton of wood in the p/up rated 0.5 ton.

kinein 09-03-2012 08:16 AM

This is what i am doin next weekend

A930Rocket 09-03-2012 08:48 AM

I can't believe it has caught on anywhere. Lots of stresses on components that would make me not want to even sit in it.

yetibone 09-03-2012 08:58 AM

I can't believe it actually rolls.

widgeon13 09-03-2012 09:08 AM

Knuckle dragger.

Paul K 09-03-2012 09:55 AM

Great way to reduce the chance of getting curb rash on the outside of the rim!

porsche4life 09-03-2012 10:00 AM

Some of the VW idiots are getting into pretty serious camber, they love camber and mexipoke...

speeder 09-03-2012 10:45 AM

That's hilarious. Wacky Japanese.

Flieger 09-03-2012 11:51 AM

I've seen it here.

Flieger 09-03-2012 11:53 AM

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Flieger 09-03-2012 11:55 AM

But we are using this on the FSAE car so it is not bad as long as you have the right tires.

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azasadny 09-03-2012 05:29 PM

I've seen this in Detroit, but on Buick Electras and Chevy Caprices and Impalas...

Baz 09-03-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flieger (Post 6952557)
But we are using this on the FSAE car so it is not bad as long as you have the right tires.

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AWESOME video Max......thanks! That thing hauls donkey! I love the caution light on top...perfect! :D

Flieger 09-03-2012 05:43 PM

Caution light is for regulations- high voltage warning.

dewolf 09-03-2012 05:49 PM

Do the tires squeal at speed?

Flieger 09-03-2012 06:08 PM

Yes (when turning at speed).

speeder 09-03-2012 06:19 PM

Serious question: on racing cars, isn't there a point of diminishing returns WRT negative camber? Like maybe the inside wheel gives up all grip or (?) I realise that the cars in the first video have nothing to do with any type of performance, but it got me wondering.

Flieger 09-03-2012 06:25 PM

Yes, if you use car tires. If you use motorcycle tires, not so much.

There are pros and cons to the setup in the video. This coming year I am planning to use the same tires but no static camber, and about 200% camber gain.

Basically you can get the same lateral force from a motorcycle tire through either slip angle or camber thrust. On a motorcycle you need to have some camber (lean) to keep from falling over, but you see riders will hang off the bike to allow it to stay more upright, at least with street tires. MotoGP guys lean like 55 degrees and stay tucked in more for aero reasons. But street tires definately will reach the limit of grip with too much lean, and that limit can be less than the amount of lean needed to counteract the centrifugal force -- which is why the rider hangs off.

Cars use (static) camber to compensate for suspension geometry that does not have 100% camber recovery, which means that the car looses camber when it rolls. They want to keep the tire pretty close to vertical in the turn and use steering angle to turn. Motorcycles use the camber thrust to turn rather than much steering.

trekkor 09-03-2012 08:36 PM

Most track cars are running 1-3 degrees of neg camber, some up to 6.

Those above are clown cars...

The Hybrid is legit. Using what looks like scooter tires.
I'd like to see some more video of that.


KT


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