Originally Posted by Icemaster (Post 6966776)

Meanwhile.....back at the ranch....

Guys pretty lippy. Would have been interesting to see what would have been said if there weren't any cameras present.

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 6966713)

A gallon of gas has approximately 114,000 BTUs of stored energy in it.

Originally Posted by db_cooper (Post 6966566)

Well, no..

When I first attended Porsche technical training early in instruction it was all about vocabulary and usage. The psychology is if you use "tear it down", "throw it back together", "motor" rather than engine, etc. you were mentally setting yourself up to do sloppy work.

For those who could not change their vocabulary the results were obvious. They talked like and were in fact pretty mediocre technicians.

Porsche's definition was very clear..Motors were devices that took existing energy and converted it to motion..like electrical or vacuum motors.


Engines took fuel and converted it via management systems into motion.

You would not use the language a "windshield wiper engine", "cruise control engine" and a "3.2 flat six motor". It is just pedestrian, not professional.


The Germans and Porsche were very exact in these matters. I think there is merit in the psychology to train a professional.

I don't watch PS much. When I do if Danny shows up to evaluate a automotive purchase, it can be painful. No tools, grease rags, compression gauge, flashlight or stethoscope. He points out any visual imperfections, listens to the "motor" and if it is clean or painted and not knocking..it is a great "motor". Never on his back under the car or taking any chance of getting his hands dirty and knocking his bandanna off. Drives the car around the block.."the transmission is great" or "the brakes need work". Not credible, he never pulled a dipstick.

Then the most amazing appraisal occurs, suddenly he is a automotive market expert too.

I understand PS is theater. They stage most of the deals, have the merchandise on site in advance and get the walk in "customers" to sign waivers and script the "sale" prior to video being made. But sloppy professional characters..the worst.

MM probably would give $200 for that crap Porsche engine. As a "core" it would have been worth that or more.

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 6965410)

That was funny as hell. That engine looked like a worn out, neglected POS, and the mechanic called it perfectly. He exercised GREAT restraint! ;)

Originally Posted by db_cooper (Post 6966796)

It was all staged and scripted.

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 6967291)

Agree.

When I say the show where the fat people repossess cars there was a scene where one of the guys getting his car repossessed was punched by the muscle dude. I frame advanced it and it was a routine movie punch. Nuttin at all - air.

Originally Posted by Esel Mann (Post 6967319)

The mechanic forgot to check the Fetzer valve.:)

Originally Posted by db_cooper (Post 6966566)

Well, no..

When I first attended Porsche technical training early in instruction it was all about vocabulary and usage. The psychology is if you use "tear it down", "throw it back together", "motor" rather than engine, etc. you were mentally setting yourself up to do sloppy work.

For those who could not change their vocabulary the results were obvious. They talked like and were in fact pretty mediocre technicians.

Porsche's definition was very clear..Motors were devices that took existing energy and converted it to motion..like electrical or vacuum motors.


Engines took fuel and converted it via management systems into motion.

You would not use the language a "windshield wiper engine", "cruise control engine" and a "3.2 flat six motor". It is just pedestrian, not professional.


The Germans and Porsche were very exact in these matters. I think there is merit in the psychology to train a professional.

I don't watch PS much. When I do if Danny shows up to evaluate a automotive purchase, it can be painful. No tools, grease rags, compression gauge, flashlight or stethoscope. He points out any visual imperfections, listens to the "motor" and if it is clean or painted and not knocking..it is a great "motor". Never on his back under the car or taking any chance of getting his hands dirty and knocking his bandanna off. Drives the car around the block.."the transmission is great" or "the brakes need work". Not credible, he never pulled a dipstick.

Then the most amazing appraisal occurs, suddenly he is a automotive market expert too.

I understand PS is theater. They stage most of the deals, have the merchandise on site in advance and get the walk in "customers" to sign waivers and script the "sale" prior to video being made. But sloppy professional characters..the worst.

MM probably would give $200 for that crap Porsche engine. As a "core" it would have been worth that or more.

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Originally Posted by db_cooper (Post 6966566)

Well, no..

When I first attended Porsche technical training early in instruction it was all about vocabulary and usage. The psychology is if you use "tear it down", "throw it back together", "motor" rather than engine, etc. you were mentally setting yourself up to do sloppy work.