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You can trip a red light camera by stopping too far out in the cross walk. If there are cars along side of on your left, you have to creep out in order to see. Especially if you are in a small car next to a large one or one with dark tinted windows. So, you really have to stop 2wice.
I don't trust the cameras so I don't turn on reds if there is a camera. However, I'm pretty sure they are all turned off in LB. There's no official word, but I haven't seen a light flash in 2 years. |
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I don't drive often, I know that's not an excuse but it likely explains why I've gotten away with for so long. I've never been in an accident, never had a speeding ticket, never had any type of ticket in fact which shows how little I drive. I actually never even took a drivers test to get my license. I should have educated myself, and I really do plan on reading the rest of the rules I likely don't know as well. |
Keep us posted on other cool things you learn about driving!
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My parents have their cars registered in each others names in Colorado. Apparently the driver has to gender match the person the car is registered to.
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I know...Ohhh, the inanity! :( But...I felt I just HAD to contribute SOMEthing to this curious and bizarre thread. |
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Scott, your driving needs help but you're certainly a gentleman. We're piling on you pretty heavily and you haven't even told us to fk ourselves. Impressive.
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FWIW, I did beat a right turn on red ticket in court once. If you DC guys know Backlick Rd. and 236 in Annandale, there's a service rd. that runs parallel to 236 with about 30' of grass in between. There's a stop line in front of the service rd. and then another where the red light is on 236. I stopped for the service rd., as it's the safe thing to do, looked both ways, continued on with my right turn at the red light without stopping again. Adjacent traffic had a green left turn arrow and there are no U-turns allowed there. So there was no way anyone could have (legally) been in my way and visibility is great in all directions there. Cop came out of thin air and pulled me over in my office parking lot.
In court the cop didn't have his act together and an old lady tore him apart before my case came up. Judge chewed the cop out for having bad notes and not recalling things well. I explained the above to the judge, he was satisfied and said just to make sure to stop at both lines next time. Dismissed. |
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You got lucky; the judge let you off. You think you could "beat" it again? You need to STOP...and read the red print. |
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Now, of course, this has morphed into a gotcha game. --Pay us for forgiveness. That is, there was nothing unsafe about your turn (huge visibility.) Yet, there's the machine to catch a 'rule' (morphed from safety) which was broken. They will sell the idea as being for public safety. Obviously it's just the system looking for Mo Money. I don't see you needing safety instruction (self preservation instinct are high in a little 911) You need a bureaucracy fleecing class. |
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Pick up a driver's license booklet from the DMV, read it, reflect on it, I think that is all you need.
Bummer about the tickets but hardly the end of the world. Funny thread! By the way, can someone explain to me why the lady in the crosswalk was so upset as I drove by? Was she jealous of my good looks? Sheesh, people. |
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me: how do you know the camera is functioning properly? can i see the service record please? out west you may turn right on red AFTER you come to a complete stop and the intersection is clear unless otherwise posted. right on red is treated the same as a stop sign in washington they CANT photo the driver so they need to prove you were the one causing the infraction. without a witness that you can question they have no case. |
Dang, Scott! I know EXACTLY where that intersection is located! Been staying in Aurora and working in Denver the last few days.
Further... I yielded space to a Panamera on a two-lanes-down-to-one-lane freeway ramp two or three days ago. See in your sign you have a Panamera, would be pretty weird if it was YOU or your wife. Didn't see who was driving though. A buddy took me to lunch at a place called BJ's here in Aurora today. Pretty darn good lunch! Anyway, sheesh - small world! angela |
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BJ's is nice, I've not been there since they opened but it was a very nice place then. Directly across the street from the now infamous movie theater. :( Also a followup I contacted the Aurora city traffic referee and I do not have any other pending infractions thank goodness. So I paid via credit card and I'll be sure to mind the traffic laws after this. I was interested to find out that the entire system is a product of Lockheed Martin and developed right here in Colorado. |
BINGO!
Don't know if it was a 4S, but the time/place are about right along with the color! So pretty slim chance it as somebody else. There wasn't a right turn on red for me to be 100% sure, though...;) You know, these Pelican guys are never going to let you live that one down, Scott! Ten years from now someone will show up at a get together with a shirt that says "SCOTT - RED MEANS STOP" - bwahahaaa!!! I've really enjoyed my stay here. Worked in the mornings/early afternoons, then late in the day went hiking. Not today - but every day prior. Been hiking over near Morrison. My company does the concessions at Red Rock, so spent time there along with a couple of other parks all right in the area. You live in a GREAT place, Scott! angela |
unless posted red light means stop and if safe proceed ( we're not talking going through the intersection!). these rolling or hollywood stops are not legal and endanger life...think about it when some driver rolls the light or the stop sign and you hit him/her.
life's too short for this "cool" behavior . i have been at he scene a few seconds after this type of accident and trust me it wasn't pretty. the second gained with the rolling stop was lost while waiting for the ems, much less the time time to recuperate. jm2c, ben:( |
Everyone should be required to ride a motorcycle for 3 years before they can drive a car. Then you too would really hate the morons that can't follow the traffic laws. When you finally run a light or stop sign and kill someone, I hope the charge you with manslaughter.
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I rode a few for many years, had a Hawk 250 in college, then a ninja 900 (the Tom Cruise one) then a FZR600 before traffic became impossible in this city.
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This 'gottcha' game is just obtuse. |
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i try to drive responsibly and "rely" on others to do the same...hoping we won't have a "drive" through the red because i think i can "make" it or illegal u-turn from far right lane argument next. in my opinion o.p.s a good man for owning the situation. jm2c regards, ben :D:p:D |
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Well u seemed to take it quite well that u got those traffic tickets. There are laws for a reason and that is to prevent accidents. I think of the times that patience pays. The times that I think that other drivers have come out of nowhere -
out of an intersection that I did not check or a driver did an illegal turn of 180 degrees right in front of me and I thought I was being patient. Patience patience and more patience. Why be in a hurry to have an accident? |
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there are MILLIONS of 'California stops' daily, w/o incident. Some are a queue of slow roll and go cars weaving thru a congested intersection. If automated ticketers would be installed, those intersections would have horrible intersection efficiencies. Here's one for you, ever see heavy traffic merge together even though one lane has a Yield sign? ...that Yield sign is being disregarded by those pushing their way into heavy traffic. Should we set up automated systems there? --of course not. Traffic flows well as people figure out reasonable actions. Automated systems are a gotcha game for profit. And, NO, I have never been nabbed by one of these systems. |
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