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Oh, yes on digging too.. I understand she is bored during the day, but what can I do ??? I fill up the holes, that, I don't mind doing... I thought initially she could not see the mesh, I don't know how dogs see... and once she popped it, she kinds used it like a doggy door... Hence the lattice. It's not a proper fence but I figured if she saw an obstruction and it resisted casual bumping, we'd be OK. I guessed wrong... I can see how escalation on fencing is not gonna resolve anything... So it looks like I either have to give her up (not gonna lie, it would not bother me or the kids - apparently they aren't interested - but it would bother my wife a lot), or let her into the house (more hair)... I'm also cursed with a good nose and not too fond of dog smell, even when clean, so that would imply a bath every 3-4 days. Dunno... Anyway, good stuff Angela thank you for the perspective. |
Greg..
just do the right thing for yourself & dog.. you mentioned a possible dog family.. your wife is just waiting for you to be the bad guy.. so be it.. not like anyone going too miss him.. folks should cry when passes.. not do the smurf dance & high fives Rika |
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Do you have the wrong type of dog? I know you said you're not a dog person but what if you had a smaller, inside dog that didn't shed? Just think it through, maybe speak to the family. Find a family for your current dog, research smaller dogs for inside ( mini Schnauzer would be worth a look, or a Basenji ).
Wife gets her dog fix, patio gets reclaimed, kids may dig it too, you keep your wits and who knows, maybe you get a kick out of it as well. |
Labs are people dogs so, they want to be near their people and when they are not they tend to get in trouble. This is bad for non-dog people who want independence from their canine companion (oxymoron?).
I've had labs all my life and couldn't imagine not having my friend next to me where ever I am in the house. When I leave her outside she digs a hole in the same spot. My solution is to not leave her outside. :) Labs are great dogs, very intelligent and easy to train. You may consider consulting a professional to see if you can get some help. It will bring you closer to the dog if it helps and that works for all involved. The other side of that option is that it will help you realize this isn't for you and you can find the dog a new happy home. You may need a heart to heart with the wife tough, that's always fun... |
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We had a yellow lab that liked to lean on our screen doors so we put a metal screen door guard from the hardware store to stop her from fall through. That might help.
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Your family invited this dog into your life. Either share your life fully with her, or find someone that will. I bear no ill will to people that are not dog folks -> they just should not have dogs.
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Sheesh. There's a lot of hostility here....
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"MR SNUGGLES HATES YOU!" and he told me to tell you this:
theres this thang called a freeking SHOCK COLLAR! level one zap=mellow "hmm i am screwing up" aka strike 1 1st step upon OBSERVED bad dawgie behavior. level two zap= "wow i am screwing up bad" aka strike 2 2nd step upon OBSERVED bad dawggie behavior. LEVEL 3 ZAP= "HOLY SHEEET I AM FOOKING UP SO BAD AND I AM AFEARED AND I WILL BE A GOOD LIL DAWGGIE OR MY HUEVOS OR OVARIES WILL SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST RIGHT HERE AND NOW AND WHY AM I 4 FEET OFF THE GROUND KIND OF SHOCK! my lab was chewing on hoses. A LOT! and it was 5 times a day. it was comical until ya look at 100ft quality hoses cost. well since we smarter than the avg bear.........we sought WISE MEN! and the dawggie wise man gave me a SHOCK COLLAR that he uses on his springer spaniels duck dawggies. he is MR BIRD HUNTER MR DUCKS UNLIMITED AKC LINEAGE ON EVERYONE OF HIS DAWGS! and he knew his poo: so.............i set up my hide in laundry room with a 6 pak(natch) and a chair, and watched my lab after installing shock collar attack my hose for the zillionth time. had control on one(1). saw dawg start chewing on hose, dropped my beer, and pressed "LEVEL 1 ZAP" and dog stopped. hahahahhhahahaha it worked. stayed out in laundry room. about 15 minutes latter, damn dawg attacked hose. dropped my beer, pressed LEVEL 2 ZAP, dawg howled and backed off. went and drank rest of 6 pak and came back..................gawd damn dawg was chewing on hose again. dropped beer, pressed LEVEL 3 (yer feeked) and watched that dawg howl like it got hit by a freight train and LEVITATE 4 FREEKING FEET OFF THE GROUND! and run like a mofo. and ya know what? that damn lab if i even touched a hose went into the next county. not EVAR AGAIN DID IT CHEW A HOSE! cost : i borrowed shock collar or buy at cabelas. (1) 6 pak. my time. too simple huh? end of poor dawggie behavior class. its how ya train champion bird dawgs and it works. same as for rattlesnake training here. place non venomous snake on ground, dawg comes close, ZAP THE DAWG and the next time dawg sees snake.....................hes in the next county! |
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ex-gf would stop along the street if she saw a dog being mistreated - administer a severe tongue lashing to the owner. it was always a sight to behold - surprised she didn't ever get slapped around. I agree, members here seem to not get the message - this family sees the dog as a commodity and not a Being. OP needs to let the dog go to "friendly family". |
Hey, just my 2cents. Haven't had a dog scene I was a kid. Would have one now if there was no maintenance beyond exercise. Back to my point you ever watch that Dog Whisper guy. Fascinates the heck out of me watching him fix problem dogs. Yeah, man find a good professional dog person to fix things.
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ok folks..
lets give G a break.. I am.. as he points out.. it's really not the dog... it's the keepers.. and before you all put those collars on your dog.. put it on yourself or kids.. then as ODDy likes to say and do... crank it up.. these collars are like guns.. without training... dogs get hurt & ruined.. BTW it's not a shock collar... its a corrective collar... |
I have no solution, but i do have a question.
If she is only doing this when you aren't home, who is in the house that is new and exciting and she just has to meet? I'm a dog guy, but my dogs are dumb. Must be a reflection of the owner. |
You could also consider crate training her. I never really felt that was a good option myself until my current lab. We rescued her a few years ago from a local shelter and a friend gave us a crate she had. We knew we would not want to be leaving her lose in the house and after speaking with a lot of folks we tried it.
Actually, when I say 'tried it' I simply put it in the house and left the door open with a comfy blanket for a cushion. She started sleeping and taking naps in there on her own. She may have been crate trained before. As it stands now though she prefers being put in her crate when we need her 'contained' more than she would like being outside for hours. She doesn't often spend more than a few hours in there at a time but there are occasions where she will spend the day in her crate. |
I love labs...my last old girl had a 14 year run before I had to put her down. I AM a dog person, and I guarantee that I would modify this behavior without resorting to shocks, etc. but I've always had the "gift'. That said, there is no way in hell that I would make an older dog (she's not there yet, but soon will be) stay outside in the Fl heat...it's simply time to find a new home for this one if you can imo. That's just my .02 and I don't mean to pile on...the "dog pile" :)
ps: One of my best buddies had a black lab when I lived in Jax. When he got married, his wife banished her to the back yard :(. About the age of your dog, the wifey came around, and she enjoyed her later years inside. They all don't chew, have seperation anxiety, etc...they are absolutely a product of their masters. If you can't do this...both your family and the dog deserve better....good luck! ps: Mikester replied while I was typing. Nuthin' wrong with crating a dog at all (I only do while mine are small puppies)...heck, they sleep all day anyways :) |
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Give the dog away. Let the dog stay where it used to live and clean the space and the dog more often. Let the dog into the house, where it will actually be part of the family. Get another dog, so yours has a companion, since your family isn't filling that need. Give away the dog. JR PS: Bonus points are available if you can figure out what I think you should do. |
angela had the best advice i have read so far.
think of it this way you kicked the dog out of his 8yr home. but you didnt properly dog proof it too. wimpy latis and screening will not hold a lab at bay. you problably should have done some training too before you made the change that the pup had a new area during the day that he was to stay |
Crate training works, and dogs don't really mind crates. They won't poop in a confined space where they live, but you have to do the right thing by the dog and take it out when it needs to go. It'll take more time with a mature dog.
Labs are very high energy/drive dogs-not the choice for an ambivalent family, but you have the dog. You really need an honesty check-do you REALLY want the dog, or is it just you can't accept the failure of letting it go... no guilt if the dog goes to a loving home, and a lab is easy to place. I mean, seriously, if you don't want the constant companionship, why have the dog? That's not a judgement on you, just a fact...too many people in this situation "refuse to fail" when everyone would be happier by moving on. Like a bad marriage... |
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