So how did you vote?


KT

No salvage on this truck.
It was $18k to repair and it looks great.

That's beside the point.



KT

That defies all logic. It is worth significantly less than $18k. $8k damage should have totaled it, using standard insurance practices. :cool:

Me? I don't vote in polls on PPOT. I simply express my opinions and then feel stupid for the waste of time.

Not according to the insurance companies.

Apparently, you don't know how they work.
They don't repair them if the cost is more than they are worth.


KT

That's fine. At what point do you require your property to be repaired?


KT

No, they don't repair them if the cost is even 60% of the value of the vehicle. Apparently you don't know how they (normally) work. Your truck is a 1999 RWD dually, right? The only way it would be worth $18k is if it had 20k original miles and was in showroom condition. Then, maybe...

It's about a $12-13k truck. You must have the world's dumbest insurance adjuster. Just wow...

This door ding is on your 1999 work truck. right? It would depend on all of the circumstances, when I would "require my property to be repaired." :cool:

It's an '01 and they said 80%~


KT

So, if your friend shattered your windshield, would you let that go? ( $300 )

The deal is, any dent on a fender costs about the same to repair and takes them three days in the shop. ( $700-1000 )


KT

Well, option 3 is: "Reluctantly offer to repair the damage. End friendship."

So, he's going to repair it... but he's doing it reluctantly, right?

No matter how reluctant he is/was, if I understand you correctly and he's going to man up and get it done, at least he gets a slight thumbs up for that.

And for those who've told you it's no big deal or you should try to forgive him, as far as I can detect from what you've said, you didn't inject a lot of drama into the situation, you just calmly asked that he get it fixed... and mentioned insurance.

I agree with you on that... times like this are why we have insurance. It assures that one doesn't have to starve his kids to do the right thing. :D AKA... no drama.

Is he going to run it through his insurance or pay out of pocket?

I always make right anything I am responsible for. Or at least offer. The friendship part might/ would depend on the circumstances, past history, and the person. Friendship is by choice and optional.

BTW, I would also have to say that the phrase, ''This thread is worthless without pictures.'' is VERY applicable here.

SO how about a picture ?

BTW, I am sorry this happened to you. In spite of the circumstances, and any other feelings involved, it must sting a bit.

Let's see a pic. A shattered windshield is one thing...how a 'bout a windshield chip where it doesn't really matter on an older "work" truck? Just playing devil's advocate here...I wonder what "version" your friend is telling? I've had my truck tailgate dented by a friend backing up to a trailer...never will fix it other than applying some touch up paint...stuff happens.

+1

Rika hit the nail on the head, once again....

If I had damaged someone's property I woud pay to have it fixed or replaced.

Friend or not. It doesn't matter.

We're talking about a door ding right? Was the paint broken? I had a customer throw his door into the side of my Carrera when I had it. The paint wasn't broken. I had our paintless dent removal guy take the dent out. It was a BIG dent. When he was done, it was perfection. $200 bucks and we called it a day.
BTW, this happened right in front of me as well.

I was sitting on the tailgate when the fender was hit.
I felt it.

The dent is right in the formed crease of the wheel arch.
The clear coat is scuffed off and the base coat is damaged.


The big issue for me is not the damage, the cost or the repair, it was the way it was handled by someone I thought was a friend.


KT

I bet your friend is thinking the same exact thing. Takes two to make a friendship, only one to break it...pick up the damn phone and work this out imo. The "heat of the moment" has passed...

ps: I'd still like to see a pic...might be a "reality check" for some here :)

Yep. Camera phone pic would do. Maybe I'll change my mind.

I likely won't post the pic.

I already said it was very small.
Also, the body shop looked at it and quoted $739~


KT

Time to move on. Life's too short to suffer fools and a**holes.

yes, this happened a week ago.

The insurance company already called and agreed to pay.

This really isn't about the truck.


KT

this is on a work truck?

If I did it I would feel obligated to take care of it.

However... if I put a tiny little chip in my friend's fender and he started talking about insurance claims I would think he's being a prick. ESPECIALLY if it was an 11 year old work truck. I would be reevaluating him and our friendship.

I find it interesting that some here seem to think it's ok for us to place a value on others possessions.

isn't that what the OP asked for?

No.

better read it again. the entire poll is a request to put a value on friendship and damage to a vehicle.

of course, trekkor left out some important details. i digress.

It rarely is about the "truck" or the money imo. I think the poll shows where we all stand about the matter. That's over with. Now are you willing to "forgive and forget"...I personally wouldn't have lasted 20 years with someone if they weren't a "good" person all along. I bet he's feeling just as bad about this situation as I suspect you are. Or just move on...we're just internet strangers throwing out .02 worth :)....be well KT, you're a "good guy", and I bet your friend is too.

Sorry, but $740 for a tiny door ding on an old work truck is outrageous. I would not want a person in my life who is that petty.

The reason we will not see a photo is because it either A) will not show up in picture, or B) will change a lot of minds and votes about asking for $700+ for it.

I think the guy who caused the ding did not know how to react. And he now knows he reacted incorrectly. If the relationship was worth the effort make the first move towards making amends. If it was not, then don't.
The other side of this is whether the OP over reacted. A small ding in an 11 year old work truck of mine would not upset me.

As Head 416 pointed out....an 11 year old "work truck"? To be fair to all parties involved, as others on this forum have pointed out, we would need to see some pics of the damage and of the entire vehicle in general for us to give you our honest opinion of this unfortunate situation you find yourself in with your longtime "friend".

That depends. Denis, if you accidentally gave me a door ding, apologized, and offered to pay for it, my reply would be that $h!t happens, don't worry about it. If you gave me a door ding, laughed it off, then refused my requests to get it fixed, I wouldn't be having lunch with you the next time you cruise through KS with a 996 in tow.;)

For me it would be the principle of the thing, not the actual door ding itself. I see it in black and white, if you damage something that belongs to someone else you offer to fix it.

Absolutely. And to take it a step further, I don't think much of people who casually swing their car door open into another's vehicle as though they "didn't see it". That's BS. In Trekkor's case, it would involve not noticing a bright red F-250 dually.

I also respect other people's property completely and would offer to fix or pay for the ding. But if the friend hit me with that bill for a door ding, I'd question the amount. I pay $300 a panel for refinishing at a good body shop in LA and paint less dent removal would be maybe $100.

Some people's work trucks are cleaner than a hospital OR. Mine was for many years until I just couldn't keep up with it. I used to wash the wheel wells and engine every time I washed the body. I almost took to putting tire dressing on the inside of the tire.

Now if I have a jones for detailing, I take it out on the Boxster. It's a pretty clean little unit. Then I go inside and swallow some Alieve.

I have seen the truck in question and it is pretty clean, immaculate even, enough so to make it strain credulity when I hear it is 11 years old.

Insurance company paid near $11,000 to repair a car I paid under $15,000 for last year, but I guess Denis must be right, they never repair a car if it is over 60% of the value of the car.

I still think this thread was more about the value of a friendship rather than a door ding. No money would have ever been mentioned were it one of my 20+ year friends. That's just the way "we" are...goes both ways. I've done damage (72' old wooden schooner that I couldn't "possibly" make right), and I've recieved damage on my "toys" that make a door ding seem insignificant. My "real" friends are worth more than that...just the way we are. I don't expect some of y'all to understand...but know that some do.

When I screw up I offer to make it right.

I expect the same from others.

If they ignore it and make the decision for me that it's not worth offering to make right then that is a problem.

I get to decline the repair, not them.

That's what we are talking about here.

It's not about the door ding, it's about proper manners and respect.

This. Exactly.

Another way to look at it... If you had damaged your own truck yourself would you spend $700 to fix it? If you would not, then why would you ask a friend to?

We're on the same page, but like I said, it's never gotten to the point of $ between my friends and I. I suspect KT's friend has a totally different version of how it went down...I'm just sayin'. I'd still like to see a pic of the ding...we're not seeing the whole story here imo.