Well....yeah it has. For what that is worth:D. It has been enjoyable getting to talk to you and we have had some laughs for sure. Threads like this, because of jerks like him, make all of us, closer to each other and help each other through goofy situations like this.

Wait........ I'm hearing faint sounds of people singing Kumbya........


Rick ..I too hope Clint does the right thing...

Interesting read... And as always you're a stand up guy David.

I rate this thread 5 stars.

Proud of you David and Don and yes even you Rick for engaging in a productive dialogue to not only air a situation that can (and yes has) happen to everyone here but to reach a resolution that is a win-win.

I can only add that Karma is real and works in our lives. Too bad we have to endure the lack of integrity of others from time to time but in the end we are a community of like-minded individuals and that is what it is all about.

Keep up the good work fellas - proud of you for standing together and handling things with true grit and character - no one can take that away ever.

OK here's an idea......I found their FB page:
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How about posting this photo on their FB and asking how much to repair?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1348935545.jpg

Talk about a shot over the bow....

OK I think this has already been resolved but it still bugs me about the lack of integrity....

Get your gun first........

as to the shipping for repair, why would you not simply ship the stock? Why does the whole gun need to go on a safari?

They only have one review on Yelp. It's positive. Posting a negative review would make an impact. They can remove pics from their Facebook page. Only the original poster (or Yelp) can remove a Yelp review.

C3 Arms - Phoenix, AZ

Agree totally.

Don/Rick, pls email me the name of the shop so that I do not use them and personally would love to see several of us on the thread go down there and simply tell them that "Because of the games you guys are playing we are not going to be using you!"

Joe A

I'll report back after I get it. I plan on going there today.

That sucks that 2 guys will stand there and tell you a bald faced lie over and over only to recant. But, it's a scratch. Get out the sandpaper and fix it. You guys are awfully proud of your gun stocks. Don't you ever use these things? I have some antique China and every now and then something gets chipped or broken. I use the stuff and I don't cry about damage.

Zeke,

Its one thing should Don do this on his own but this is a newly re-finished gun from an excellent gunsmith. It should look like new when Don picks it up, and after that time its on him to keep it looking like that.

These jerks lying like this is BS and hope they enjoy the Karma they get from it...

Joe A

Are you Trekkor's ex-friend, by any chance?

Don't get me wrong. I understand why a beautifully finished stock by David is a work of a craftsman and should be appreciated. I understand the frustration concerning the jerks that did this and then lied about it. What I don't understand is why it doesn't just get fixed.

Eff the guys that received the gun. I wouldn't tell any of them if they were about to sit on a rattlesnake. I would just bypass them for better days and better ways.

Can't the stock be removed and sent directly to David w/o a FFL getting involved? It's clear to me that the FFL in AZ ain't gonna make good. The point is to realize it's only a piece of wood and it can be made to look good again and again. Is it worth going to court over the issue?

Sorry if I sounded like I would just go home with the thing and forget about it. I wouldn't. But I wouldn't have a heart attack about it either. My days of being OCD are over.

I don't think so Zeke..
I've seen some of your stuff..
your craftsman..
you take pride in your work & rep.
your a ..
do it right..
or stay in bed kind of guy..
old Z would have given them a class right there and then..

Rika

well...taking this gun apart is not for the faint of heart here. It's not just a straight forward box lock with a bolt thru the buttstock. The wood has the trigger and sear return springs built into the wood on each side. It takes some finesse to get it back together again. Besides that, after Don excepts the transfer, he can send it back to me directly as we are an FFL dealer. Once fixed I can send it back to him directly as he is the original owner and it was in my possession only for the repairs. That would be the easiest way to deal with the situation. I believe in the end that is what we will do. We are giving this guy another 24 hrs to man up.

Thanks for letting me know about the disassembly. And the laws.

Something is up with their phones so I just went there. Eric and the other guy are out front when I walk up. Just a nod and wave so I walk on in. No one in the store then the guy followed me in.
"So, I suppose you are here about your shotgun?"
Me, "Yup, is Clint around?"
Him, "No, he's out of town for the next several days. Uh, he said that he should be the one that deals with you. Hang on a sec, let me get his number." Then he walked back outside to speak with Eric.
When he came back in he said "Here, this is Clint's number."
Then Eric and a different girl come inside as well.

I call Clint, he said he spoke with my Gunsmith and they decided to handle it between them and just get it fixed. No muss, no fuss. I'm suprised. Then I ask when he plans of finalizing the details with David. He said he's in classroom/training all day but will try and call him while on breaks.
Bear in mind, Clint was supposed to call me on Friday but never did. He was supposed to get back with David but hasn't yet. He's had the gun 6 days.

I decided to give him 24 more hours to call David and make arrangements. If I don't hear confirmation from David by 3pm eastern time Wednesday, I'm going to get it and be done with it.

I have a pretty good feeling he's just working it so he can say "Hey, I was going to fix it but you just couldn't wait."

We'll see.

Clint is bad about getting back to folks in a timely manner, but I suspect he will make this right. I've had to hound him about guns I knew had been delivered. But that was when he was home-based, so I understood he couldn't always be there to wait for folks to come get their guns. At that time he charged $10 for a transfer and said $10 gets me bare minimum service. I can live with that.

I think your feelings are correct. All he needed to do is make a phone call or send an email to get it done. These days we can communicate 24/7. No excuse for this to drag on like this. PM me his cell number Don......I'll give him one more chance tomorrow.

So I tried to call his cell phone this morning and he did not pick up, his mail box is full, and I can't leave a message......what a guy. It may be time to release the Kraken.

Well no word from Clint so I went there to get my gun. I walked in the the younger guy is there and asked how he could help. I said I'm here to get my shotgun.
He said "But I got an email from Clint telling me to ship it back to the gunsmith".
I paused a few secs...
He added "Here, let me read it to you. 'Send the f'n shotgun back to the gunsmith and include a check for $100'. Do you want to take it with you or should I send it back?"

So, it appears Clint is proceeding with the offer from David. I should be getting a tracking number tomorrow.

Again, we'll see.

Like an old movie line: "He learns slowly... "

Glad to know your f'n gun is coming back. I hope his f'n check is good. I'll do an f'n good job for you. they sent me a tracking number but did not tell me who the carrier was. By the number it looks like USPS. I replied that I needed to know who the carrier was, but have not gotten a return email. Or would that be an f'n email?

I just ran the tracking number through USPS...it's a comin' my way alrighty.

David,

Pls make sure the f'ing check is good before you proceed.

I know you will fix the damage but this idiot is just silly enough to play basketball with it...

Also pls make some pics of the spoon before you send it out. Hard for him to tap-dance around things with documentation.

Thanks Joe. Good f'n advice.

At this point I just do not trust the jerk...

Time will tell....time will tell.

The f'ing jerk Joe...the f'ing jerk....gotta keep the f'ing story straight here for us f'ing bystanders...:p

Well Clint did the right thing. I applaud him. Got the gun back and a check for my services on the repair and a return UPS ticket. Good man. It will be done by Friday and back to AZ to Don.

Let's hope they don't scratch it again. Wouldn't that be a biotch.

If Don has already done the transfer, Clint won't have to receive it again. David can ship directly to Don via regular mail.

Glad to see it done. Hope you get it back ok...

Don did not take the transfer so it will be going back to Clint and the Destroyers. The scratch was no small deal really. It was actually two scratches right next to each other and both about a 16th of an inch deep. I really had to dig them out. Far from just a finish scratch.

In other words, Clint wants to make sure that the "Spoon" must come back through the shop again for "another try at mucking it up!"

OK just so we ALL see it. This is the piece going out tomorrow. As you can see it is fixed. Getting pretty shiny, starting to look like a browning.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350000343.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350000357.jpg

The damaged side....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350000376.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350000389.jpg

all in a days work...

Stunning!

Hey Don,

Print out the above photos and take them with you when you go to pick the spoon up.

Sure would make good backup!

I'm shipping it assembled, bubble wrapped and in a gun case. There will be no need to do anything but check the serial number to put it in his book. Of course he has do take it down to verify that. Fingers crossed.

Reminds me why getting my C&R was the smartest move I ever made as a collector. No more fees and hassles. OP, If you haven't aready, a C&R is worth its weight in gold for like $30.

You need an FFL as a gunsmith. I do what I have to do.