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VINMAN 10-23-2012 01:47 PM

My faith in humanity: Another chunk sliced off...
 
My Search and Rescue team was mobilized last night to help search for this girl , who has been missing since Saturday. Before we got the chance to go out last night, she was found. :(


Police: Body of Autumn Pasquale found in recycling container in Clayton | NJ.com

Police: Body of Autumn Pasquale found in recycling container in Clayton






After an exhaustive two-day search to find Autumn Pasquale, authorities announced early Tuesday morning that a body has been found in a recycling container on East Clayton Avenue in Clayton.

The Gloucester County Prosecutor's Office said, in a statement released at 1:27 a.m. Tuesday, that a female's body was found in a container around 10 p.m. that "has been preliminary determined to be that of 12-year-old Autumn Pasquale" who went missing from her home Saturday afternoon.
The Prosecutor's Office said it would not release the exact location of where the body was found, but said only that it was in Clayton. Members of Autumn's family have been notified, police said.

"This is a very sad day for the Pasquale family," said Gloucester County Prosecutor Sean Dalton, whose office led the search with the assistance of nearly 20 other law enforcement agencies. "Our hearts go out to the family and to all the residents of Clayton who stood together in support of this young girl."

Photos released by Clayton, N.J. Police Department show Autumn Pasquale, 12, of Clayton, N.J. Authorities say her family reported her missing Saturday. Anyone with information is asked to contact the Clayton Police Department at (856) 881-2301. (AP Photo/Clayton, N.J. Police Department)

Just hours earlier, hundreds of community members gathered on the front lawn of the Clayton Municipal Building in a candlelight vigil to pray for her safe return. She was to turn 13 next week.

"Say your prayers for Autumn and all the children who are lost and can't find their way home," her uncle Paul Spadafora said over shouts in the crowd yelling for Autumn to follow the candle light to Clayton and "come home!"

During a press conference Monday afternoon, Gloucester County Prosecutor Sean Dalton, flanked by Autumn’s parents Anthony Pasquale and Jennifer Cornwell, announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to Autumn — $5,000 from the family and a matching amount from the prosecutor’s office.

It was not immediately clear how authorities found the body, or if the reward helped in the discovery. Check back on nj.com for more updates as they're made available.

The Clayton Middle School student was last seen around 1:30 p.m. on Saturday afternoon. She left her home on her white Odyssey BMX bike headed for a friend’s house. She was expected home at 8 p.m.

Enlarge Tim Hawk / South Jersey Times Dominique DeFalco, 15, a Clatyon High School sophomore writes 'Help us find Autumn" on a car window as the search continues for Autumn Pasquale of Clayton who was last seen leaving her West High Street home on her white Odyssey BMX bike around 12:30 p.m. Saturday, authorities said. She did not specify where she was going and her family reported her missing around 9:30 that night. (Staff Photo by Tim Hawk/South Jersey Times)Search for 12-year-old Autumn Pasquale of Clayton, Oct. 22, 2012 gallery (25 photos)

VINMAN 10-23-2012 01:49 PM

Now this just came out. I'm raging over this.


http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2012/10/autumn_pasquale_two_teen_boys.html

Police: two teenage boys charged Autumn Pasquale's murder.

Two teenage brothers, ages 15 and 17, have been charged with murdering Clayton girl Autumn Pasquale, whose body was found in a recycling container outside a house on East Clayton Avenue.

The boys, whose name were not released by the Gloucester County's Prosecutor's Office, have been charged with murder, conspiracy to commit murder, disposing of a body, tampering with evidence of theft. The younger boy was also charged with luring.

Gloucester County Prosecutor Sean Dalton said the teens lured the 12-year-old girl to their East Clayton Avenue home where she was killed. An autopsy conducted Tuesday morning revealed Autumn died from "blunt force trauma, consistent with strangulation," Dalton said.

Her death has been ruled a homicide.

Dalton said the boys' mother informed law enforcement about information one of her son's posed on his Facebook account. Additional information led members of the Gloucester County Prosecutor's Office to where Autumn's body was found.

Dalton said that information led to a search warrant for the East Clayton Avenue home — the house next door to where her body was dumped.

Inside, police found some of Autumn's belongings including the white BMX bike she was last seen on when she left her West High Street home Saturday afternoon around 1:30 p.m.

Authorities also found other physical evidence that led to the arrest of the two juveniles.

Dalton said the two boys were accompanied by their attorney Tuesday afternoon when they turned themselves in.

"It's my hope the arrest today provides a measure of closure (for the family) that the individuals responsible for their daughter's death will be held accountable," Dalton said.

GH85Carrera 10-23-2012 01:53 PM

I can not even imagine how anyone could do that to any other human. I hope the boys are charged as adults.

Rick Lee 10-23-2012 01:56 PM

An unspeakable tragedy. I guess the only good that came out of this is that two murderers were caught right away and will probably not see the light of day again before they're old men, if ever. How do people turn into such monsters?

daepp 10-23-2012 01:57 PM

You never get to hear, but I would love to know what kind of upbringing those boys had and what their home-life/parents were like. I don't believe in too many bad seeds.

A crying shame it is. Prayers for the family and for the soul of little Autumn Pasquale.

VINMAN 10-23-2012 01:59 PM

Heres the poor girl. Apparently she was strangled.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1351025825.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1351025869.jpg

onewhippedpuppy 10-23-2012 01:59 PM

It's a scary time to be a parent. I can't even imagine what that must be like.

matt f 10-23-2012 02:03 PM

Horrific.
Agree w charging both as adults.
Does NJ have death penalty?

KaptKaos 10-23-2012 02:21 PM

So disgusting and sad.

Where were the parents of those two monsters? They need to be thrown in jail too!

Jim Bremner 10-23-2012 02:24 PM

Get a rope for the two boys. Sad thing for all involved.

widgeon13 10-23-2012 02:25 PM

Just saw this in the Albany news, really terrible event. Sad that kids can do this to each other.

bivenator 10-23-2012 02:27 PM

If I read correctly, the perps put information on thier facebook page about the murders. Feel terribly for the parents.

jwhcars 10-23-2012 02:50 PM

This is so sad. What a waste of 3 lives.
Prayers to her and family.
I hope that those murders get the maximum sentence.

HardDrive 10-23-2012 02:53 PM

They killed her for her bike. I feel like I want to throw up. Dear lord......

azasadny 10-23-2012 02:55 PM

Horrible...

Seahawk 10-23-2012 03:01 PM

Vin, amidst this tragedy I can only thank you for your willingness to help, go where most of us would not, doing what most of us cannot.

My best to you.

And the family of that beautiful young woman.

syncroid 10-23-2012 03:52 PM

I'm at a loss for words. Horrible! At least the two dirt bags responsible for the crime will not have a chance to commit another like it. I feel bad for her parents.
I'm going to give my daughter an extra hug tonight when I see her. (14)

motion 10-23-2012 03:56 PM

Horrible and devastatingly sad on all levels. Vinnie, I don't know how you deal with this stuff and how you can sleep at night knowing the kind of scum you might run into tomorrow. Me, I choose to create a bubble for my family so we are hopefully never exposed to horrors like this. I know it can happen to anyone at any time, but there are things that can be done to lessen your chances.

Baz 10-23-2012 04:03 PM

Horrible.

Humans can be such monsters.....they really can be. :(

matthew-s 10-23-2012 04:05 PM

Unreal - I received the alert when she went missing, and then another this morning saying she was found. Very sad. Thanks for being ready to help Vin.

I assumed it was caused by a family member (statistics being what they are), the truth is even more surprising and shocking. I can't get my head around it.

RWebb 10-23-2012 04:10 PM

Vin, You cannot let this stuff get to you. It is just like being a surgeon or psychological counselor -- some things don't turn out well.

Best wishes.

Don Plumley 10-23-2012 04:45 PM

the more people i know, the more i like my dog...

kimlangley7 10-23-2012 04:45 PM

Really > it's time that these monsters are held responsible for their horrific crimes - and they they are disposed of... they have demonstrated that they are monsters - have no place in a law-abiding society >> ergo they must be put down >> all in accordance with the laws > the system >

I don't give a rats azz of their upbringing/hardships[never had a puppy].. I don't want a sob story - just string them up or give them the juice -

Oh Haha 10-23-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 7048185)
It's a scary time to be a parent. I can't even imagine what that must be like.

+1000000000000000000.....


It's much more stessful than some would think.

My kids are 6 and 8 and they don't leave our yard without one of us.

Overprotective? You are absolutely correct.

Superman 10-23-2012 06:13 PM

Unimaginable.

Danimal16 10-23-2012 06:24 PM

I hate this kind of crap. What can one do, think or even say about such horror.

944Larry 10-23-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimlangley7 (Post 7048519)
Really > it's time that these monsters are held responsible for their horrific crimes - and they they are disposed of... they have demonstrated that they are monsters - have no place in a law-abiding society >> ergo they must be put down >> all in accordance with the laws > the system >

I don't give a rats azz of their upbringing/hardships[never had a puppy].. I don't want a sob story - just string them up or give them the juice -

Kim, I think you and I are going to get along just fine. I agree with every word you posted.SmileWavy

fintstone 10-23-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 944larry (Post 7048792)
kim, i think you and i are going to get along just fine. I agree with every word you posted.smilewavy

+1

FPB111 10-23-2012 06:56 PM

What is it with NJ juvenile brothers?
Jennifer Parks | Trench Reynolds - Part 2

944Larry 10-23-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 7048827)
+1

Of course you and I already see "eye to eye"!:D

doug_porsche 10-23-2012 07:11 PM

Seems you agree with Ron White about the death penalty

In Texas, we have the death penalty and we use it. If you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back.

Ron White Texas Death Penalty - YouTube!

Joeaksa 10-23-2012 07:15 PM

Hope that there is a special place in hell for these two...

944Larry 10-23-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug_porsche (Post 7048855)
Seems you agree with Ron White about the death penalty

In Texas, we have the death penalty and we use it. If you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back.

Ron White Texas Death Penalty - YouTube!

Yep, I like Ron and the "express lane" too! I'm in Jasper Texas now working on a rock job. It's always a treat to work here.

Hard-Deck 10-23-2012 07:37 PM

I am not a tough guy regarding this. Tears roll down my face right now. I hope they get tried as adults.

Geneman 10-23-2012 08:11 PM

from philly papers tonite...
 
wtf a beautiful 12 yo girl kiled in a quiet, middle class suburb by two brothers simply for BMX BIKE PARTS!!??? Have these parents introduced any values at all to their kids? OMG.. God Bless Her.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1351048284.jpg

widgeon13 10-24-2012 08:32 AM

It appears the boys' mother actually brought some questionable emails to attention of police. Just a disgusting story. All for some bike parts, WTF is wrong with these idiots??

New Jersey authorities say girl was strangled by teen brothers for parts of her BMX bike | Fox News

ODDJOB UNO 10-24-2012 09:14 AM

hey vinny, being in the uscg aux, avid outdoorsman, offroader, a freeking nermal human being , blah blah etc. , ya get called upon some days to do crap that yer mind can never wrap itself around. its a total suck fest, your feelings go from sad to mad and back again in mach 10 seconds.

you try and reason this crap out. and ya feeking cant .........reason it out. its a constant non stop epic cluster with no reasoning anywhere attached.

i gave up on humanity years ago. my next door neighbor in downey kalif MURDERED on my freeking DOORSTEP! yes i had to play 2000 questions with the downey cops and ID a woman who had been beat to death by her boyfriends hands. i move back here to az. and not a year later babysitters daughters best friend murdered 400 yds from my house! thats what sent me off the deep end and i got my AZCCW.

i have had enuff with humanity. huge step carrying CCW everyday, total mind change warp reversal. i grew up in a 1 horsey mayberry rfd where i was the paperboy and now i am shoved under da bus living in the same place and its now the 5th largest city in the u.s.. and the crime just plain sucks.

i am pro death penalty, and despite the state being pro death penalty the goofier than sheet haus rat behavior continues.




the girl murdered up in colorado recently lived very close to where i went to college there. and that really hit me and im freeking a 1000 miles away. but i gawd damn lived there and it bothered me.


theres no wrapping yer head around this crap, theres no explanations for it. all ya can do is move on and try and fill that mind space with something else and try not to dwell on it. it will make you crazy. it will suck you into the vortex of doom. it will eat you alive from the inside out.

so hang in there, suck it up, slam some beers, go offshore racing, do something to occupy yer mind, hell grab a plane ticket and show up in baja for the 1000, and walk away from this freeking crazy ass human behavior.


theres is no explanations nor reasoning it out. theres no what ifs. it happened ,its bad, it sucks royal purple donkey dongs, and theres nothing you can do.

hang in there man. being a 1st responder to anything bad, leaves scars that no one really ever sees.

remember "people are no damn good" hope that made ya laugh. adios.

see theres a reason why gawd didnt want firefighters to carry GUNS..............it would put the cops out of a job! hang in there dood!

sammyg2 10-24-2012 09:21 AM

The human race is definately flawed.
We are capable of incredible acommplishments, incredible acts of kindness, and also unbelievably horrific violence that developed as a survival mechanism.

The only hope is that eventually we evolve to the point where we no longer need that vicious violent part of our potential without becoming a race of victims.
In not, then our race not worth having around IMO.

craigster59 10-24-2012 09:33 AM

Here's a little more info on the suspects and the Facebook postings...
Alleged killer "liked" "Find Autumn Pasquale" Facebook page

Brando 10-24-2012 09:42 AM

We should bring back execution by hanging, firing line, electrocution and guillotine.


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