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Originally Posted by 89911 (Post 7124832)

Are they making a new RS4? I've come to realization that for the time present, there is nothing out there worth changing to. I think I will do a reevaluation in the spring and see whats coming. A new M3? Whats that going to run $70-80K? Not won over by anything Audi or BMW has in the mid price lux sedan. I came away liking the 550i even more. Found a review that may express what I mean:

Melted Rubber: 2008 BMW 550i review

AutoSpies.com's Agent 001 reviews the 2008 BMW 550i - YouTube

My advice if your in the same market, buy a 550i. If my car's value is now in the mid 20's, its one of the best deals out there for shear driving pleasure

So why not buy a couple-year-newer 550XI and get your all wheel drive?

Hey Eric Speaking of M3s do you know what is a new one going to cost? Casual questioning in the showroom leads me to believe they want MSRP. Is there a bargaining position to go in with? No lease just a cash sale.

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Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7125271)

So why not buy a couple-year-newer 550XI and get your all wheel drive?

If I "liked" the new 5 series, I wouldn't be test driving all these cars. I have had some as loaners and they remind me of slightly shorter 7 series. The car has just gotten too big for my taste, but I may reconsider. I will look into it.

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Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 7125290)

Without any negotiation or work, one of my local BMW dealers offers $3,330 off MSRP: 2013 New BMW M3 2dr Cpe at Motorwerks BMW Serving Bloomington, MN, IID 9383458

You can find used 2012s with under 5000 miles for $55-60K (depending on options) and NEW 2012 left-overs for $8000 off MSRP.

Here's a 2012 with 4,975 miles, local one-owner Audi trade (clean CarFax, at a Audi/Porsche dealer) for $54K Buy-It-Now:

BMW : M3 CARBON FIBER ROOF 6 SPEED MANUAL 414 HORSEPOWER in BMW | eBay Motors

Here's a used 2013 with 450 miles, at BMW of Tulsa for $68K:Used 2013 BMW M3 2dr Cpe - BMW of Tulsa - New and Used BMW Dealer Serving Tulsa, Oklahoma

On the wholesale side, I know of:
A 2012 Silver M3 with 550 miles in FL for $66K
A 2012 White M3 with 1350 miles in GA for $64K
A 2012 Silver M3 with 2100 miles in PA for $63K
A 2012 White M3 with 6500 miles in TX for $57K
A 2012 Gray M3 with 6300 miles in CA for $59K
And many more with "normal miles" for thousands less....

Nothing substantive changed for 2013, and the new bodystyle is coming out sooooon (already out in sedans).
So why would you EVER pay $75K+ MSRP?!?!?

And why would you ever buy new??

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Originally Posted by 89911 (Post 7125328)

If I "liked" the new 5 series, I wouldn't be test driving all these cars. I have had some as lowners and they remind me of slightly shorter 7 series. The car has just gotten too big for my taste, but I may reconsider. I will look into it.

Then find a 2008 550XI

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Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7125351)

And why would you ever buy new??

The ones I see used are about 8-10 k less than new. For that amount and that type of car I was thinking it would be worth it.

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Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7125356)

Then find a 2008 550XI

I would if they made one. Doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by 89911 (Post 7125825)

I would if they made one. Doesn't exist.

Just testin' ya :D

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Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 7125649)

The ones I see used are about 8-10 k less than new. For that amount and that type of car I was thinking it would be worth it.

Well, $10-15K savings for used M3s with under 9K miles sounds like a good deal to most people. Maybe order the exact one you want and shop around for a great deal.

Here's a recent thread (11/05/2012) on Bimmerfest about buying a new 2013 M3 Euro Delivery (he leased it):
2013 M3 Euro Delivery - Bimmerfest - BMW Forums

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Well, today I made the final decision. I was going to purchase a 135is or 335is but the leases on M3 improved so much this month I could not resist.

Here is the deal I agreed upon today. I placed my order this morning and already received my production number.

MSRP: $66,595
SELLING PRICE: $57,920
REBATE: $1500 (Holiday Cash)
TERM: 36 months
RATE: .00106 due to max Multiple Security Deposits
ACQ FEE: $725
DLR DOC FEE: $399

If I coundt the doc fee I am getting the M3 for $750 over invoice before the Holiday Cash. After Holiday cash I am paying around $750 below EU Invoice.

Here is what I am getting

2013 BMW M3 w/ 6spd Manual

300 Alpine White
4MY Carbon Leather interior Trim
NCH2 Fox Red Novillo Leather
Z19 Double Spoke (Style 219M) Satin Chrome finish M light alloy wheels
(18 x 8.5 front, 18 x 9.5 rear; 245/40 front and 265/40 rear performance tires)

223 Electronic Damping Control
494 Heated front seats
609 Navigation system
615 Online Information Services
620 Voice Command
639 BMW Assist
6FL iPod and USB adapter
6NN Hands Free Bluetooth
6UH Real Time Traffic Information
7KB Navigation, BMW Assist w/ enhanced BT & USB

No cash cap reduction ($0 down) $590/mo includes tax. MD we pay tax on entire car not just on the payment. The residual is 62% for 36 months/10k miles/year