Directions are a bit scetchy in the US. IL is considered the midwest. I always wondered midwest of what? New york?
Texas is southwest and AL is "deep" south. So I guess Florida must be next to the south pole.

We have timber rattlers here as well. When all the rich folk started building houses on the mountain behind me the snakes all moved down to the valley. Thanks!

Brown Wiidow
 

In San Diego California Brown Widows are taking over Black widows areas.

On any given night, I can go in my backyard and find a dozen of them.

I tried spraying them however, they play dead and then when you come back they are gone.

They get on lawn furniture and hide out in the day and at night they come out. They females have egg sacks that can contain up to 200 spiders.

See story below:

Brown Widow Spiders Pushing Out Black Widows In California | KPBS.org

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AHHH Ha Ha Ha! Now that's funny!

Ah well, I'm definitely a vengeful man- I thoroughly subscribe to the "best revenge is living well" philosophy... life is amazingly good these days- look at the company I keep right here!

In all seriousness, we're pretty lucky up here in the NW corner of the country... we have more to fear from "vicious ex's" than we do from poisonous critters- when I fed the new wires through my tunnel back to my engine compartment, I didn't give a second thought to getting bit by some creepy little arachnid... I guess this is where I confess to being the real sissy!

Curt

Great post and information. I am in Ocean Beach and my yard was full on these things - however everyone around here thought they were a Brown Recluse and it had the faint-of-heart staying indoors. They are everywhere here.

Brown Widows displacing Black Widows is good news!

UCR Spiders Site: Brown Widow Spiders

CISR: Brown Widow Spider

Scott

Hey winders ,just wondering from this post on Kidrock and other Posts (Bill and the Brake job) that you got your Forum name from winding people up? Do you ever suffer from foot in mouth disease? ever apologise in your perfect life? Mate lighten up and give what you have the best ,your experience and knowledge and leave the OCD behind.,want to hear more of your real stuff pertaining to 911`s for us less fortunate ones who learn much from others who have been there. BL

Take it easy, tough guy.

Show me where I have been shown to be wrong and didn't say so myself. When I am wrong, I am more than happy to fess up and learn from it. I'm fallible. One of the best ways to learn is to be wrong.

Texas is not part of the "West". It is part of the "South".

Verburg never comes close to admitting he is fallible. He always believes he is right even when presented with evidence that he is wrong. According to him, my race car should spin out anytime I apply the brakes hard. Instead, the brakes are well balanced. "California physics" I guess.

Scott

There it is ,I rest my case.
BL

What case? You made no case. Your goal was to wind me up. It didn't work. Let's get back to Black Widow and Brown Widow spiders. They are a much more interesting topic than I am.

Scott

My Case is you are ALWAYS right ,you are so right you turn people off,what a miserable person you must be to live with,I bet you divorsed are single.

Yup.

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Pacific Region (Region 1)
The Pacific Region includes Idaho, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii and the Pacific Islands.

Southwest Region (Region 2)
The Southwest Region includes Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas.

Great Lakes-Big Rivers Region (Region 3)
The Great Lakes-Big Rivers Region includes Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin.

Southeast Region (Region 4)
The Southeast Region includes Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Puerto Rico/Virgin Islands, South Carolina and Tennessee.

Northeast Region (Region 5)
The Northeast Region includes Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia and West Virginia.

Mountain-Prairie Region (Region 6)
The Mountain-Prairie Region includes Colorado, Kansas, Montana, North Dakota, Nebraska, South Dakota, Utah and Wyoming.

Alaska Region (Region 7)
The Alaska Region consists of the state of Alaska.

California and Nevada Region (Region 8)
The California and Nevada Region consists of most of these two states, plus the Klamath Basin area of Oregon.

Fish and Wildlife Service

Nope. I am not always right. I always defend what I think is right until proven wrong. I use the Socratic method. I never assume I am infallible. If I did, I would never learn. I am well read and knowledgeable on a variety of subjects. You don't get that way never being wrong.

TED Blog | On being wrong: Kathryn Schulz on TED.com

I am generally a happy go lucky person and have been married for almost 28 years. First marriage too.

Scott

Heel n Toe,

Here are the 4 official regions (Census Bureau):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ted_States.svg

Notice the divisions as well.

Other agencies break up the U.S. land mass as necessary for their administration.

The Fish and Wildlife Service have there own map as you have shown. They put Hawaii with Idaho and California with neither.

While some consider Texas as part of the Southwest, that is certainly not universal. I don't think it is even the majority:

Southwestern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Heck, Kentucky and Tennessee were considered the west in the early 1800's and west of the Mississippi river was the frontier.....

Scott

Actually...

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Ooooh, internet tough guy! I bet you pounded out that message with AUTHORITY........on your keyboard.:rolleyes:


Around these parts we have the brown recluse. As the name suggests you'll find it hiding in various places like undisturbed boxes, old shoes, etc. The bite is rarely fatal but can be pretty nasty, Google is your friend if you like that sort of stuff. A friend of mine was bitten as a kid, it laid him up for about a week and looked seriously nasty. We kill them occasionally in our house and frequently outside, fortunately getting rid of our wood pile has reduced their numbers.

A few years ago when I had finished rebuilding the 9 eleben motor and was in the process of installing it I found a widow tucked up under the engine.

Ordinarily that would be no big deal, I would just squish him and go about my biddness.
But this one was a bit more dramatic as I noticed him when dropped down onto my face as I was under the engine.
Sceamed like a school girl and hit my head on the way out, then squished him.
It took a while to get back under that car.

Oh, and California is not out west. So there.

Agree and we have loads of all of the above out in Arizona at times...

BTW, Texas IS West...

yup, true South, not Southwest (think AZ & NM) and not deep South (think AL and Miss), nope, Tejas is the true South. The only true South state...

So Don't Mess with Tejas!!! :)