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VINMAN 01-14-2013 05:51 AM

. .223 and .40 is non existant around here.:mad: Even .22 is getting scarce.

manbridge 74 01-14-2013 06:57 AM

For the .223 guys, check out "corbin press." They offer a kit to make your own jacketed bullet from a .22LR shell. Might be worthwhile if things get all pear shaped.

Rick Lee 01-14-2013 10:22 AM

Other than testing out my latest Commander with 100 rds., I'm done shooting for a while. Need to sit on what I have until things calm down. I figure some states are going to pass new laws on ammo, either taxes or background checks or monthly limits. If that happens in some big states, it will make ammo more plentiful for the rest of us. And if things really return to normal within a year, lots of folks will be blowing out all the stuff they hoarded, probably on Backpage or Gunbroker. I imagine a lot of folks are gonna be owing huge tax bills in April 2014 when they file for 2013. So that might be a good time to find deals too.

djantlive 01-14-2013 12:02 PM

Any looking for reload rounds in 9 and .380? I have a bit left. Pm me if interested. Located in San Francisco area.

rouxroux 01-14-2013 12:24 PM

If you're going to buy from Wally world, do it now as they are suspending ammo orders.

onewhippedpuppy 01-17-2013 10:23 AM

I just picked up some 9mm at my local Cabelas, they were decently stocked. I saw all of the popular stuff with the exception of .223. Quantity limit of 10 per customer. They only had one AR15 on the shelf, a basic Bushmaster for $729 which I'm surprised they had considering the run on them.

daepp 01-17-2013 11:39 AM

The story about Walmart was a rumor. They have officially debunked it.

Hoots 01-17-2013 12:03 PM

Could the bare ammo shelves be caused by the large amount the U.S. government is buying?

Consider the source.

Rick Lee 01-17-2013 12:19 PM

Doubt it. Too many manufacturers out there don't sell to gov't. agencies and their stuff still is on backorder. I saw a forklift drop off a pallet of 9mm in front of a store last week and they were out the next morning. And that's with a daily limit per customer.

A930Rocket 01-20-2013 03:37 PM

Without starting a new thread on guns/ammo/etc. will this mag fit the AR15? I'm not familiar with FNHR, etc.
FAQ's ask if will fit the AR15 and the answer is yes, but try it to be sure. Well, the only way I can try it, it to buy and ship it.

Cabela's: FNH AR-15 30-Round Magazine

fintstone 01-20-2013 04:12 PM

I am shocked at the price of 556 and 223. About .80 for 223 and almost a buck for 556... each? How do you guys shoot that stuff? Last time I bought ammo was the 70's and it was only a few bucks for a box.

onewhippedpuppy 01-21-2013 05:11 AM

I bought 500 rounds of .223 in December for $120, making it cheaper to shoot than my 9mm. This was at my local Cabelas, I'm sure it was even cheaper online at the time. After this stupidity passes I'm sure it will go back to more reasonable prices.

KFC911 01-21-2013 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 7219896)
I am shocked at the price of 556 and 223. About .80 for 223 and almost a buck for 556... each? How do you guys shoot that stuff? Last time I bought ammo was the 70's and it was only a few bucks for a box.

I've learned not to "look" at the prices on old ammo boxes Fint :D.

ps: Then again...I probably made $2.50 an hour back then...it's all relative.

yazhound 01-21-2013 05:53 AM

kinda like the stock market ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weseeeee (Post 7191357)
It's due to an over reaction to news reports. Buy now if you have to have ammo or guns today. If not, wait it out, the ammo, guns and normal prices will come back in a month or two.

Overreaction to perceived outside events that shakes people down deep far in excess of the reality... why those involved with the stock market exchanges should have a "cooling off" period before frantically selling and jacking up the saving/investments of regular folks.... despite all their education et al., human nature prevails during times of emotional flares

fintstone 01-21-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 7220570)
I've learned not to "look" at the prices on old ammo boxes Fint :D.

ps: Then again...I probably made $2.50 an hour back then...it's all relative.

I started my first non-farm job at $1.60 an hour. It seemed to go pretty far back then...but I was still living at home.

red-beard 01-21-2013 06:35 AM

What does a brick of .22 go for these days? I picked up several bricks back when they were still like $5-7 for 500 rounds. That was before the 2008 election. I think the last time I looked, they were $15-17, a couple of years back. I do know that the shipping costs have gone up due to new regulations.

KFC911 01-21-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 7220705)
I started my first non-farm job at $1.60 an hour. It seemed to go pretty far back then...but I was still living at home.

You "old fart" :). $2.35/hr for me back in '76 (I was 16)...still beat the heck out of working in the tobacco fields (for even less) however :D

edited: ps: I'd actually been working "for years" by then...mowing lawns for $1.25 (each) and I supplied the mower/gas/sweat.

fintstone 01-21-2013 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 7220717)
You "old fart" :). $2.35/hr for me back in '76 (I was 16)...still beat the heck out of working in the tobacco fields (for even less) however :D

Actually, I still made $1.80 in 1976 as in NC they did not have to pay min wage to fast food workers unless it was a national chain. Yep...worked in the tobacco fields as well. Got paid whatever they thought was fair. It was usually not much..but I sure had a nice tan.

I also hand waxed cars for $5 each back then...and they were behemoths.

Jeff Higgins 01-21-2013 07:43 AM

No ammo shortage here. I cast over 600 bullets (from free wheel weights) this last weekend for .38 Special / .357 mag and .45 Colt. I'm still working out of kegs of powder and cases of primers purchased over the years, with some of them well over 20 years old. I just buy that stuff when it's on sale (or when the hoarders discover they have more than they will ever use), in quantity, whether I need it of not. I've simply never been affected by any sort of ammo shortage. That, and I shoot centerfire pistol and revolver for less than you guys shoot your .22's.

A930Rocket 01-21-2013 08:31 AM

I bought 2100 rounds for about $98 a few weeks ago from Cabella's. First ammo buy and I'm sure it was too much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 7220710)
What does a brick of .22 go for these days? I picked up several bricks back when they were still like $5-7 for 500 rounds. That was before the 2008 election. I think the last time I looked, they were $15-17, a couple of years back. I do know that the shipping costs have gone up due to new regulations.


A930Rocket 01-21-2013 08:33 AM

Help me out guys! Will this mag fit the AR15? I'm not familiar with FN, FNHR, etc.

FAQ's ask if will fit the AR15 and the answer is yes, but try it to be sure. Well, the only way I can try it, it to buy and ship it.

Or are you guys buying them all up and not tellling me? :)

Cabela's: FNH AR-15 30-Round Magazine

dhoward 01-21-2013 10:32 AM

It'll work. That's a ridiculous price though. I would hold off on mags for at least a few more weeks. My distributors are telling me Magpul will be shipping soon...

Rapewta 01-21-2013 01:49 PM

I look at ammo as something to barter later down the road.
No one needs thousands of rounds of ammo for personal use. But just like matches, toilet paper and many other items... Ammo isn't a bad investment.

I still have boxes of ammo for cals I don't even own anymore. Someone will need the stuff and I will get something good in trade.

Just don't turn around and use it on me.

azasadny 01-21-2013 03:19 PM

Same here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapewta (Post 7221616)
I look at ammo as something to barter later down the road.
No one needs thousands of rounds of ammo for personal use. But just like matches, toilet paper and many other items... Ammo isn't a bad investment.

I still have boxes of ammo for cals I don't even own anymore. Someone will need the stuff and I will get something good in trade.

Just don't turn around and use it on me.

Same here!! I even reload calibers that I don't own guns for.... like .38 Special

A930Rocket 01-21-2013 04:22 PM

Looks like my 800 rounds of .223 from Cabella's has gone from backordered to cancelled. :(

red-beard 01-21-2013 05:41 PM

I was talking to my transfer FFL today. He was saying that receivers went from a 2 week backlog to a 2 year backlog. Things have to straighten out soon...

KFC911 01-22-2013 03:28 PM

Went in Wallyworld earlier and out of curiosity checked out the ammo case...not "quite" as bad as 4 years ago, but pretty barren. Not much selection for rifles, nor pistols as most popular calibers were gone. With one exception...there were probably 25 boxes of .45 ACP...they must have gotten them in this morning :).

onewhippedpuppy 01-23-2013 09:22 AM

When I was at a cleaned out Bass Pro Shop in KC a week ago, the one ammo that they had plenty of was .45. Guess the 1911 guys with their 7-round magazines aren't too concerned about bans.;)

BlueSkyJaunte 01-23-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapewta (Post 7221616)
No one needs thousands of rounds of ammo for personal use.

Three or four training classes would wipe out that inventory. Guys who shoot in competition and practice regularly would go through that in maybe two months. Or less.

Don't assume a consumption rate based on your own limited experience.

nynor 01-23-2013 10:57 AM

i still can't get the reloading components i want: .224 bullets in 55gr - 75gr, BLC(2), IMR4895, varget powders, and primers are still hard to come by. as for .223 ammunition, the gouging is outrageous: $1/round for the cheap CRAP that was selling for $0.35/round six weeks ago.

Jeff Higgins 01-23-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 7225551)
Three or four training classes would wipe out that inventory. Guys who shoot in competition and practice regularly would go through that in maybe two months. Or less.

Don't assume a consumption rate based on your own limited experience.

Yup. When I was an active competitor, it wasn't unusual to go through in excess of 10,000 rounds per year between practice and competition.

Rufblackbird 01-24-2013 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 7223985)
Went in Wallyworld earlier and out of curiosity checked out the ammo case...not "quite" as bad as 4 years ago, but pretty barren. Not much selection for rifles, nor pistols as most popular calibers were gone. With one exception...there were probably 25 boxes of .45 ACP...they must have gotten them in this morning :).

here as soon as they get them in stock at Wallyworld they are gone by the next day, if not within a couple of hours.

A930Rocket 01-24-2013 08:37 AM

44MAG.com - Wholesale Rifle and Pistol Magazines has 223/556 mags in. Pricey but they have them.

https://www.44mag.com/product/d_h_30_ar15_magazine_magpul_follower/223_ar15_magazines

JuiceMan 01-24-2013 08:52 AM

Ammo here in KY is getting wiped out as soon as it hits the shelves. On frequent trips to WalMart and even to gun stores all that is usually left is .22 WMR and oddball stuff like .32ACP

I luckily found 2 boxes of .44 Mag for my Ruger a few days ago and I'm actually looking into getting one of the new Ruger LCRs in .22 WMR http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/25/4a7aqaza.jpg

A tad bit off the original topic however I thought some of you may find this useful. Here is a list of the proposed guns in the new AWB.

daepp 02-27-2013 11:05 AM

Bass Pro Shops last night

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361995491.jpg

djmcmath 02-27-2013 03:17 PM

That looks just like my local WallyWorld or Dicks.

I'm lucky, in that my gun is in a caliber that apparently has unpopular or overproduced ammo, .45ACP. I've had a little trouble finding it, but nothing like the 9mm or .40S&W guys, and certainly nothing like .223. You can't get .223 in Maryland for love or money.

lendaddy 02-27-2013 03:53 PM

We have a few firearms auctions here in Michigan every week. .223, all you want just over a buck a round usually. Just sayin.

JavaBrewer 02-27-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmcmath (Post 7299886)
That looks just like my local WallyWorld or Dicks.

I'm lucky, in that my gun is in a caliber that apparently has unpopular or overproduced ammo, .45ACP. I've had a little trouble finding it, but nothing like the 9mm or .40S&W guys, and certainly nothing like .223. You can't get .223 in Maryland for love or money.

If you really want ammo it's available PPT. Mark up yes but abundant.

legion 02-27-2013 06:07 PM

The only ammo I've seen in abundance and at a steady price is .50 BMG.

I can't even find .22 LR.

szyzygy 02-27-2013 06:25 PM

lol

how much ammo are you guys hoarding? Why not arrows instead? You can cheaply reuse them and provide about the same amount of food,


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