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Buckterrier 01-28-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 9dreizig (Post 7236735)
And being an avid grizzly bear hunter

Why? (you knew I'd chime in :D )

Great vid btw Jeff.

Jeff Higgins 01-28-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mreid (Post 7237009)
I remember that story, Sammy. They went looking for him and only found a rib cage.

Yep - one Timothy Treadwell. Putz thought he could live as "one with the bears". Cost him his life, along with his girlfriend. Unfortunately, the authorities had to put down the bear. I'd have given it a medal.

He was quite the story in hunting circles for years as he kept getting away with it. We all knew his day would come, and some poor bear who was simply tired of this idiot would pay for it. Real shame.

john70t 01-28-2013 05:36 PM

Documentary on Treadwell: Grizzly Man (2005) - IMDb

vash 01-28-2013 05:57 PM

polar bears are grizzly without fear of man..

i've read that a polar bear will actively hunt down a man for food. it amazes me the eskimos used to hunt them with a 30-30. i dont run very well on ice and snow. i would die.

if i was in that cube thing, i would have a ratchet out to check all those fasterner during the bear's investication. :D

dafischer 01-28-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 7235837)
Just another BS misleading post.

The 'bear' approaches the washing machine and then removes his fur to wash it in the machine. I didn't bother watching anything after that.

You have no sense of humor whatsoever, do you.

enzo1 01-28-2013 06:18 PM

Starving polar bear attacks BBC cameraman in pod in Arctic Norway | Mail Online

onewhippedpuppy 01-28-2013 06:41 PM

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VINMAN 01-28-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 7235837)
Just another BS misleading post.

The 'bear' approaches the washing machine and then removes his fur to wash it in the machine. I didn't bother watching anything after that.

Holy crap, lighten the f#!& up dude!


That was great Jeff, didnt expect that! :D

That John West commercial is hilarious.

aigel 01-28-2013 07:52 PM

LOL! Nice videos.

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look 171 01-28-2013 08:01 PM

Jeff, that's funny. Those guys had me going for a bit. I was thinking that's a fat grizzly, but in the snow?

sammyg2 01-29-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 7237211)
Yep - one Timothy Treadwell. Putz thought he could live as "one with the bears". Cost him his life, along with his girlfriend. Unfortunately, the authorities had to put down the bear. I'd have given it a medal.

He was quite the story in hunting circles for years as he kept getting away with it. We all knew his day would come, and some poor bear who was simply tired of this idiot would pay for it. Real shame.

Surprised his family didn't try to sue the bear ;)

I wuz in jackson hole one time in my 20's trying to pretend I liked southern comfort.
Some place called the million dollar saloon I think. They had saddles for bar stools.
They also had a grizz all stuffed and mounted standing up on his hind legs.
Never realized just how massive they were till I stood next to that thing.
The legend goes that a guy killed that griz by biting his neck.
Put me down as skeptical.

sammyg2 01-29-2013 06:33 AM

Correction, it's called the million dollar cowboy bar.
Or is that coboy?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359473583.jpg

GH85Carrera 01-29-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mreid (Post 7237009)
I remember that story, Sammy. They went looking for him and only found a rib cage.

Those two became part of the grizzly. And a lot of grizzly poo.

Jeff Higgins 01-29-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 7237370)
polar bears are grizzly without fear of man..

i've read that a polar bear will actively hunt down a man for food. it amazes me the eskimos used to hunt them with a 30-30. i dont run very well on ice and snow. i would die.

Used to? When did they stop?

They are actually known to use .222's and .223's for this duty as well. Quite effectively. Bell used a 7mm Mauser to kill many of his thousands of elephants. If you really know how to hunt, how to really get in close, and just where to shoot them, you can make it work. "It's not the arrow, it's the Indian..."

vash 01-29-2013 07:40 AM

buckterrier..bear is delicious. well, black bear is! super delicious!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359477625.jpg

Jeff Higgins 01-29-2013 09:01 AM

You have to treat it right though, vash. That begins with choosing the right bear. There are "eating" size bears and "trophy" size bears, and never the twain shall meet (meat?)

The problem is with some enzyme in the fat that will permeate the meat as the fat starts to break down once you've killed the bear. "Trophy" size bears have a lot more of it, and the meat is far more marbeled with it. "Eating" size bears are much leaner, without as much of the marbling.

In any case, it is absolutely imperitive to trim every last visible scrap of fat from the meat before you wrap it. Don't think you can just trim it up after it comes back out of the freezer or, worse yet, after it comes off the grill. By then it's too late - the damage is done.

I even trim the fat from the outside of the carcass right after skinning it. I've trimmed as much as 4" of pure fat off a bigger bear's ass ("does this fur make may ass look fat?"). Speaking of skinning, that has to happen just as soon as it hits the ground, no matter how cold it is. And quartering. And butchering as soon as possible. You have to get the fat off and cool them down as soon as possible - that is the key to a good eatin' bear.

Starting with a small, lean, tender one helps immensely. The big ones are just so marbled that it turns into an exercise in futility to get all of the fat off, and it winds up permeating the meat. The dog will dig his way out under the fence when you try to barbeque that stuff.

NY65912 01-29-2013 09:09 AM

Timmothy Treadwell, it did not work out too well for him and his girlfriend.

Bears are well..... bears after all.

vash 01-29-2013 09:15 AM

Jeff you are right!!

that one bear in my pic was about a 120 lbs. stupid delicious. i helped my buddies dad take a nuisance bear near yosemite. huge and it was eating garbage. woof! scary and gross. inedible.

having said that..some people render bear fat into a fantastic lard. i am sure this depends on what the bear eats a it's primary diet. Aigel sent me a jar of bear fat. i am gonna try to make some biscuits with it!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359483310.jpg

recycled sixtie 01-29-2013 09:21 AM

This is the best bear book I have ever read - Bear attacks, their causes and avoidance by Stephen Herrero. Hurtig Publishers Edmonton/Toronto.
:eek::) It is certainly worth a read for you outdoor types - camping/hunting/driving in bear country. I cannot understand the number of motorists who leave their cars and stand 20 yards from a grizzly to get a photo as I witnessed last summer near Jasper Alberta. Unbelievable.:eek:

Jeff Higgins 01-29-2013 10:31 AM

Bear fat was the go-to patch lube for the old Rocky Mountain trappers in their day (1800 ~ 1840's), vash. It took on legendary status as such. Sperm whale oil was acknowledged as a better patch lube but, by then, they were getting harder and harder to find in the Rockies. ;)


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