Anyone know Rem 700 spoons?

[HardDrive]

Don't need it, but it seems like with a decent scope this thing could be fun for long(ish) range plinking.

Rem 700 .308 Win 26" heavy barrel 84218 New : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com

[aigel]

I am no fan of them even though they have a huge following with millions sold. There are other options out there for less money that perform just as good if not better IMHO, especially for the same or less money. I would look at a Savage in a similar set up in particular. Features that are upgrades on the 700 are standard on the Savage (removable magazine, adjustable trigger).

What I find interesting on the 700 is the trigger controversy around accidential discharges. I may be paranoid, but I'd sure want the new trigger and not a classic rifle without the upgrade:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/manufacturing/2010-10-20-remington-700-trigger-cnbc_N.htm

Finally, if you really want to go long range, I'd go with something flatter shooting than the .308.

Cheers,

George

[on2wheels52]

The stock on the GB one leaves me cold, for that kind of money I'd have walnut (but I'm an old guy).
Wasn't the trigger problem a made for tv drama? I think anything was wrong except the operator.
Jim

[ODDJOB UNO]

what you have there is the basis of one of the MOST accurate rifles EVER BUILT!

the M40A-1.

ditch the crap stock, box up action, send to mcmillian here(az), and tell them you want an "ISSUE" M40-A1/A2. pick yer camo flavor for your stock(dez/woodland/urban/etc).

early versions used standard floorplate(mine),with beefed up steel trigger guard vs aluminum.

later versions use a detachable box magazine using accuracy intl 5rd and 10rd mags.

mine is presently getting the badger ordnance box mag update and the safety checked. anything amiss with safety it gets a TIMNEY TRIGGER(adjustable). badger ordnance (DOD NSN issue) mfgs box magwell/trigger guard.

all components will be ROGUARDED(look up robar), on your action just like mine was. and i swear by roguard in cold wet snowy hunts.

issue weapons came with backup iron sights and scope.

have them install 1913 picatinny rail on top. buy leupold 3.5x10 x 44mm illuminated TMR reticle or MIL-DOT reticle and leupold or a.r.m.s quick detachable scope rings.


install a second sling stud to front forearm for your harris bipod.


install quality(no crap) match sling, grab federal 168gr BTHP and proceed to TAKE "X" OUT ALL STINKING DAY LONG!

the MOST ACCURATE RIFLE I HAVE EVAR OWNED! i have WON BETS OUT SHOOTING CLOWNS THAT "THINK" THEY CAN SHOOT! and trust me there are a hell of a LOT OF CLOWNS OUT THERE that "think" they can shoot! the rifle will flat out scare you with accuracy. it will out shoot 99.9 % of shooters out there.

once you receive it, obviously buy a pelican hard case for it, a dewey coated cleaning rod, a cleaning rod bore guide(dont evar scratch crown of barrel), and treat it right. nevar evar EVAR remove bedded action from stock, unless major armorer work needed. allen bolts on trigger guard are set to an exact torque, samo as scope ring torx. mark them with wifeys red nail polish to see if they loosen after installing them with blue loctite. scope rings and trigger guard must be torqued to correct setting with a QUALITY INCH POUND TORQUE WRENCH!

this is a precision rifle that will astound YOU!


i wouldnt waste my time with a savage or winchester(japanese). wayyyyy more parts for rem 700 out there.


after this i would look at a steyr bolt in .308.


a bolt action will out shoot a semi auto any day of the week. less moving parts PERIOD!

[MotoSook]

I have the same hardware. Mine was sold as a Varmint rifle with a basic plastic stock. Same barrel, same action. I bought it for about $500. IIRC I paid $550 or less. At that time Remington had a $40 rebate...which I filled out and never saw anything thereafter. Until recently, they sent me a letter asking if I had cashed the check. Short of it, they sent me new check, and I will deposit it this week.

Anyhow, I like the 700. The trigger needs tuning to my taste, but as you can see toward the last pages of the thread linked below, the trigger isn't so bad that a guy who's never shot a bolt action to 100 yds can get a decent grouping.

Since I bought the rifle, I've added a Choate tactical stock that free floats the barrel. I had the stock machined for AI drop mags. It's one hell of a rifle and I will probably never get rid of it. It's an all purpose rifle to me...

Good bolt action rifle for <$500?

[svandamme]

If it was around here, i'de buy it and put a nice walnut stock on it.

Like so :

[ODDJOB UNO]

Originally Posted by MotoSook

I have the same hardware. Mine was sold as a Varmint rifle with a basic plastic stock. Same barrel, same action. I bought it for about $500. IIRC I paid $550 or less. At that time Remington had a $40 rebate...which I filled out and never saw anything thereafter. Until recently, they sent me a letter asking if I had cashed the check. Short of it, they sent me new check, and I will deposit it this week.

Anyhow, I like the 700. The trigger needs tuning to my taste, but as you can see toward the last pages of the thread linked below, the trigger isn't so bad that a guy who's never shot a bolt action to 100 yds can get a decent grouping.

Since I bought the rifle, I've added a Choate tactical stock that free floats the barrel. I had the stock machined for AI drop mags. It's one hell of a rifle and I will probably never get rid of it. It's an all purpose rifle to me...

Good bolt action rifle for <$500?

drop timney trigger into it and yer golden. or have gunsmith tune trigger and CHECK SAFETY!


tubbs mfgs a damn nice firing pin with chrome silicone spring for them. wayyy less lock time than out of the box oem.


when i had my M40A-1 built for me in the 80's by dick davies @ mcmillian, they gave me the option of the standard floorplate or the badger ordnance tow yer 5 ton truck mega trigger guard and box magwell. i went the cheap route and regretted it from the day i received it.

so when the rem "safety" issue came up, i decided when i took it in to arrington accuracy here(he works with mcmillian), i would do the badger magwell also.


its a PITA with gloves on opening hinged floor plate and putting rounds in or removing them. thats my only bee-attch about it.

installing badger magwell SOLVES EVERYTHING! all rds in a mag, rounds are safe from dropping, spare mag in pocket for quick reloads. 5rd or 10rd mag from accuracy intl at brownells or midwayusa.


dropped elk and deer with mine. there is NO difference btwn POINT OF AIM AND POINT OF IMPACT! there is NO 1/2" MOA crap.....................ITS "X" EVERY STINKING TIME! as long as i do my part breathing, keeping barrel steady, correct trigger pull and let off. yes wind/rain/snow/humidity/heat/ammo lot will affect final outcome of POI.


the other model to look for is the heavy barrel "40-X" and the heavy barrel rem 700 VARMINT in .308. ditch the crap wood stock and grab a mcmillian stock and you have the basis for an incredible rifle.

the older ILLION,NEW YORK mfg. models are what ya look for.

[BRPORSCHE]

I own one. It's a 2004 model in 8x57 Mauser. It's a classic model

Here is a pic of it at the range.


And a stock picture off the interent.

[targa911S]

You need to put a timney trigger with a safety in it. The problem is real. You can do it yourself. Easy job or call me and ill talk you through the process. They cost around$125.00 at midway USA. Or just look for a savage with the accutrigger.

[ODDJOB UNO]

Originally Posted by svandamme

If it was around here, i'de buy it and put a nice walnut stock on it.

Like so :

note HOW LOW bottom rifle scope is MOUNTED!!!!!!!


this is KEY! very very very IMPOTENT!

medium rings high rings are a joke and a stroke!

you do not want some mega 50mm objective scope(fat end closest to muzzle) on these.


you want to mount scope as LOW AS YOU CAN TO BARREL!


once scope mount installed correctly(1913 picatinny is best), you want to get your rings mounted correctly. this IS KEY! DONT FEEK THIS UP!


get correct scope alignment install tools. lay each in each ring until you have pointy ends touching DEAD NUTZ! tighten rings down. then lay scope in. put top ring half on with blue loctite, then torque TORX to mfg specs alternating across from one another just as you torque lugs nuts. then mark them with wifeys RED nail polish.

then laser bore sight and set your reticle up.


sight in for 200yds, write down "comeups" for 168gr federal BTHP's and slap on inside of stock under cheek piece for reference. leupold 1/2"MOA =1=click windage and elevation.



WOOD STOCKS ARE A JOKE plain and simple. any change in humidity/temp/altitude etc etc etc will CHANGE YOUR ZERO! and thats why mcmillian does what they do. and thats why a mcmillian stock will OUT SHOOT ANY WOOD STOCK ANY DAY OF THE WEEK MONTH YEAR OVER AND OVER!



do ya see any wood stocks on the USA SHOOTING TEAM??????????? let alone in combat? let alone at a MATCH?

[Rick Lee]

I have one in .30-06 and love it. Never had any trigger issues, but then I only use it at the range (for now).

[vash]

I like OJ's advice. A 700 is a tack driver. I don't have one but my bro owns many. I always let a good gunsmith install the scope. I don't have the alignment tools . I would buy it.

[ODDJOB UNO]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I have one in .30-06 and love it. Never had any trigger issues, but then I only use it at the range (for now).

rick have the safety CHECKED! this is real. all the rem 700's mfg'd for just about ever may have this issue. basically rd in pipe, SAFETY ON, and IT WILL FIRE!

peoples KILLED by this. it IS REAL and it AINT GOOD! very very VERY BAD JU JU!


solution despite remington stating it isnt real:

1) send to remington and they will ADD NEW PARTS

2) BUY TIMNEY TRIGGER(mfg'd here LOKAL in phx.)

3) HAVE GUNSMITH INSTALL UPGRADE PARTS!



PICK ONE (1)!

[MotoSook]

Re: the scope alignment. I just take the bolt out and line up the bore and scope. That gets me on paper at 100 yards and I adjust from there. A bore laser achieves the same result. I even use this method with my AR uppers. Works great!

I like OJ's advice. A 700 is a tack driver. I don't have one but my bro owns many. I always let a good gunsmith install the scope. I don't have the alignment tools . I would buy it.

[Jeff Higgins]

I'm not sure it's possible to make a bolt gun look any cheesier than the one in that GunBroker ad. My God, what an abomination. By all means buy a M700, just not that one.

Seems the common thread these days when dealing with firearms that have been around for awhile is to buy the oldest one you can afford. This holds true for the M700 as well. The nicest one I ever owned was an original first year BDL in 7mm mag. I still kick myself for selling it. It was not only beautiful, it shot 150 grain Sierras and Noslers (seated over a stiff charge of H4831 or RL22) into the same ragged hole at 200 yards all day long.

The newer ones I've had have all been sold with no regrets. Fit, finish, and accuracy never matched that old 7mm mag. Even Kenny Jarret, of "beanfield rifle" fame, quite using M700 actions about ten years ago. Of course he's not worried about the same things I am as far as fit and finish, since he is only using them to build his own rifles, but he became dissatisfied with them from the standpoint of precision. It just wasn't up to previous standards anymore. Quality had slipped and they needed too much work to clean up. Remington are resting on their laurals. If you can't find a '60's or '70's M700, buy the Savage instead.

[vash]

Originally Posted by MotoSook

Re: the scope alignment. I just take the bolt out and line up the bore and scope. That gets me on paper at 100 yards and I adjust from there. A bore laser achieves the same result. I even use this method with my AR uppers. Works great!

no. we are talking about aligning the two scope rings PERFECTLY with each other. i have seen scope tubes crushed when the allens are cinched down. if you get them perfect, there are not internal stresses on the barrel of the scope. let me find those alignment jigs.

[vash]

ive seen them like these. you get the tips of those cone things to touch perfectly. that way the scope is parallel with the barrel and both scope rings are aligned with each other.

[weseeeee]

+1 on the trigger issue, please investigate it. Great weapon with a Timney Trigger.

[nynor]

i like the remington 700. i also like my cheap marlin bolt action in .308. it shoots 1/2 minute of angle all day long, if i do my part.

as for flat shooting, the 30-06 or 300 win mag with the same projectile do shoot flatter. however, per the army, the .308 is good for 800 yards. if you are a marine, its good for 1000 yards. (i am neither, just quoting their manuals.)

d.

[MotoSook]

Originally Posted by vash

no. we are talking about aligning the two scope rings PERFECTLY with each other. i have seen scope tubes crushed when the allens are cinched down. if you get them perfect, there are not internal stresses on the barrel of the scope. let me find those alignment jigs.

Ahh...I just loosely mount the scope get it in position...tighten the clamp on the scope, then alternately tighten the base. The tube aligns the mounts. Not sure I buy into the idea of needing a tool or gunsmith for that.